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12 Hours Later ("Great job, BUT...")

DRU2012

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OK--it's Sunday, and I get to sigh, sit back and enjoy the win that my heart (and gut) has only just a little while ago begun to settle in with, accept and set aside. As a whole, it's really a matter of getting used to the new-found (or, more accurately, "newly reacquired") target painted on our collective backs. Don't worry: Like the players, we get another day or so to enjoy yesterday's fulfillment of everything we've watched, worried and waited for the last few years--but know it or not, LIKE it or not, "the transition" has begun "out there", among the media (who will start hyping us--and our players read the papers, hear the talk), AND our future opponents (who will see and hear the same hype). NEXT Saturday is already on its way--all the MORE dangerous because it is against a team that "SHOULD be" a bit of a step down after LSU, the Vanderbilt Commodores.
Now, given the rest of our schedule this month, and the fact that Vandy seems to rise up and knock off an SEC foe at least once EVERY year, this would be a potential "trap game" for us regardless. However, though not quite on par with the Tigers or the Tide, the Commodores have managed some surprisingly decent recruiting the last couple of years and the results are beginning to manifest themselves: formerly a "dangerous defensive spoiler" from a basketball-school, some weeks they look more and more like a mid-level SEC-Football Team--and woe be to the opponent, ANY opponent, who takes them lightly. We better prepare for them--and better than we "prepared" for Kentucky, by the way--if we don't want to see ourselves in a scary, ultimately disastrous dogfight next Saturday afternoon. A team like ours, just coming into its own, still young, missing some parts and lacking some depth, is especially vulnerable to the "big let down" at just this point in the season. Like a larger, big-picture version of the kinds of mistakes and dumb penalties we're still taking at crucial points in games (yesterday, it happened SEVERAL times in the first half, again) we COULD make a giant "preparation mistake" here this week: no matter what we tell ourselves, no matter what the coaches SAY, it would be only human to feel that "we're over a hump" after yesterday's game. Like it or not, that LSU game was always "out there", from the moment we started practicing in ernest for game 1, week 1 at the end of August. The coaches AND the players did a great job of acknowledging it and then "putting it away", setting it aside until the past week, but now we have to set it aside ENTIRELY, and try to face Vandy in the same determined and composed way we have prepared for every game until now. It will not be easy for these players, harder than they think--but this staff so far has at least managed to have them ready to "adapt and overcome" as they entered into each of the games so far, and they are well aware of the particular dangers and subconscious elements here, I'm sure.
My only larger concern, then, is of course that we have NOT been more "prepared" to start well against ANY of our opponents in those games. Even Kentucky made us look sloppy the first qrtr or so. That it was in truth more likely OURSELVES making us look that way is hardly soothing. Sooner or later, this could cost us, find us bumbling too much for too long, too far into a game against a hungry opponent that begins to be driven forward by the very real sense that they CAN beat us that day.
Yes, it WAS kind of hilarious watching those arrogant loud-mouths from across-the-panhandle and their fans' bewildered "WTF-AGAIN?!!"-look at the end last night, but it should also serve as a warning to us. Granted, we tend to WIN close ones, and we have what is turning out to be a superb defense that can keep us in ANY game, as long as we can wake up before the end--but with our current offense, what if we got TOO far behind before that "wake up call"?
I'm not saying it's going to happen, only that it COULD, and in a season with a team and staff who are smart, disciplined and determined, but still young enough to run on emotion for whole stretches of games AND the days leading up to them, it's possible we might well sooner or later find ourselves down by 2 or 3 scores in the 2nd half, emotionally tired and facing a team themselves flying high on the possibility of a "huge signature win"--and THIS one has the best chance of being that game. Unless we somehow find a whole deep-passing game, and the WR-playmakers to make it and our return game finally work, these very missing pieces are going to put us in a bind, too late and once too often.
All of the above brings us to the hard part: What do we do to AVOID this danger, and a potential "shocking upset"? Well, of course the very fact that our coaches are aware of it is the first step--but it's not enough. Getting the players to buy into it, to take it seriously enough to understand that it is a kind of "enemy within them", that they have to take seriously, is difficult: It sounds like one of those "cliches" they've heard too many times before. This is where coaches earn their keep, all part of overseeing the growth and maturity of what was once just a collection of talented, competitive individuals and turning them into a TEAM, a mutually supportive group of young men who support and depend on each other, trust themselves and their coaches, and together don't stay too high or too low for too long. I'm just not convinced that, judging by our FIRST half performances thus far, we are all the way there yet--and if we don't get closer, and soon, it could cost us a game we actually go into expecting to win, and win easily.
 

InkedAdrenaline

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Geez dru, that's a book lol.

We still have a lot to work on yes. But I think we have a bit more than what everyone realizes....
 

DRU2012

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Geez dru, that's a book lol.

We still have a lot to work on yes. But I think we have a bit more than what everyone realizes....
Yeah, I know man...I started it when I got up this morn, and found I kept adding to it with more to say...might edit it down--but want to make some complicated points. (You're right though--needs to be a LOT more concise...)
 

DRU2012

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InkedAdrenaline
(OK--I tightened it up some...still long, but more than a third cut and still makes the main points...Thanks: I was half-asleep when I first wrote it earlier--and then just woke up and pushed the "Create Thread" key without rereading it...Sorry--I do that sometimes...I think it's somewhat more readable now--at least not so self-indulgent!)
 

NaffGutts

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I agree with everything you said, I guarantee that Muschamp enjoyed a brief celebration as we saw on TV, which gave his team the go-ahead and celebrate too. But today I bet he is all business watching film and pointing out every bad play, blown coverage, missed tackle and everything else the Gators did wrong. He is well aware on what improvements need to be made and where, and I know he is the type of coach who doesn't let his team get hyped up or forget the mission still ahead of us. He comes from Texas football, known for being fierce on the field and quite during the week, that's the Mack Brown in him lol. Kind of reminds me of last nights game with Texas and WVU, when they were reviewing a play and the Texas sideline was jumping around like idiots and you saw Mack Brown get probably the most angry I've seen him on TV, just because he knew there was alot of game left and his team was getting out of control and not focused on whats still left to do.

Either way though, the Gators face an unfavorable schedule. We still have our toughest games ahead of us against Georgia (who is looking for redemption), South Carolina (who has one foot in the door), and FSU (which is our bitter Rivalry). And if we do emerge without a loss, we still have to face the Crimson Tide in the SEC Championship.

Point is, our schedule will make or break us. It sounds cliche but it's really the truth, if we step up each game more and more like we have been doing all year, then it will only set us up to beat 'Bama and win a NT. Think about it, we've been pushed into the corner every game and had to not only fight our way out, but throw blows ourselves to ensure the victory. If we keep playing like this, we'll be at the point of no return, meaning no matter how you hit us, we will find a way to strike right back, and often. I look forward to more Gator "upsets", as I know the nation, even our fans, still have doubts. But one thing is certain, Gator Nation is back.

Just have faith is our team guys, they are getting the job done and LSU defense is tougher than what we have left to face. South Carolina has a hard road in front of them too, they have LSU next week in Death Valley against a team that has an oh-so bitter taste left in their mouth. We'll see.
 

Escambia94

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Coach Muschamp has game footage on Vandy, SC, and UGA. SC and UGA are pretty much known factors--both are strong and athletic with speed mixed in. SC has the advantage of having a crafty coach. Florida will beat UGA if it executes--that is one thing they should have learned from 2010 and 2011. Florida could have beaten UGA the past two years, but its execution was horrible. This weekend proved to me that Connor Shaw's upside is bigger than Aaron Murray's plateau. There, I said it. UGA has some of the most talent on its roster, but its coaches have let their talent plateau too soon. Maybe this loss will make UGA grow a bit, and hopefully it will not grow enough to survive the Gator raid, but enough to make it a fun game. By fun, I mean Muschamp hanging half a hundred on the Leghumpers (it won't happen, but I can dream).

Summary:
- The Gators had their growing pains last year with all those losses. They can stay focused this year using those lessons.
- UGA and SC are beatable, but Florida needs to find something deep in order to beat both--a balance with passing.
- SC and UGA are still good teams, but if Florida can stay close in the first half it should be able to adjust in the second half.
- SWAC. I love watching their fans cry. Let us hope the Gators reclaim Ron Zook Stadium. This team can do it.
 

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NaffGutts, Escambia94
The Vanderbilt game is our last one on-the-road until Atlanta (IF we make it and IF you leave the Cocktail Party out of it). In other words, though it IS a difficult stretch, as tough an October and (from the official statistical viewpoint) possibly one of the hardest overall schedules in college football this season, with the help of the kind of rollicking crowd we had yesterday in Ben Griffen, we will have the opportunity to "Take back the Swamp" the rest of the way, if we CAN continue to improve: play our game ("our game" now being to run the ball on offense, tie 'em up on defense, dominate the line-of-scrimmage on BOTH sides of the ball, adjust and dominate the 2nd half) and "take 'em one game at a time" through to December.
Though I LOVE smashmouth football, I was as frustrated as anyone with seeing introduced even a pale version of it in Chomp's 1st season here, with the personnel we had from the Meyer years. I didn't know then what we all know now: That courtesy of his last few recruiting cycles, though "highly regarded", we'd been left with a bunch of "me first", pull-up-rather-than-risk-your-body, give-up-early-if-the-play-isn't-for-me, self-centered loud-mouthed guys who sulked on the sidelines and cliqued together with their "posses" and other malcontents, talking about quitting, going somewhere else when things didn't seem to be going their way--Meyer split as much because during '10 he realized that these guys wouldn't ever amount to much even playing HIS style of offense. Muschamp's insisting on immediate implementation of a more hard-nosed style I now see was aimed as much towards weeding out a large part of this group, seeing who among them had the character, discipline and BALLS to shut up and see it through, and begin the training and transformation of everyone who stayed to his style, attitude and the physical reality of the brand of football he had in mind for them--and promised everyone was coming to the Florida Gators in the years ahead.
Now it is starting to reveal itself--and in only his second year here, thanks not only to his insistence on starting immediately, never MIND what we supposedly already had here, but some fortunate openings and resulting hires. How much these were examples of "choosing to move on" by Fat Man (to become Head Coach at Kansas) and Mickey (to "follow Urban to tOSU"), just fortunate circumstances rather than their both being "quietly encouraged" to leave, we'll never know, but it sure worked out PERFECTLY for us: We got the two guys who immediately reversed downhill trends in this program, whose changes have not only had immediate benefits, but will positively impact this program for years to come.
I know we're not "there" yet, and I'm MORE than satisfied with how much further we have come, how much faster we are developing, and how TOUGH this team has gotten in so short a time, but I can still see the obvious missing pieces, and naturally I want to see them filled in some way ASAP if we are to continue what has so far turned out to be a better, more exciting season than I thought we could hope for before NEXT year, soonest.
In that regard, better starts in general, and a long-range passing game in particular, with a couple of play-making WRs giving our young QB more options and room to grow, are the two areas that need immediate improvement. Without 'em, defenses will just load the box and dare Driskel to throw, often under pressure, and until we get that stretch-the-field passing game, that could work against us. As for those stumbling starts, well, they're not just hard to watch: sooner or later they'll put us in too big a hole to climb out of, with a defense that itself might wear down in the second half after being run ragged in the first. No one's managed it so far, but there are a couple of pretty formidable offenses ahead, each differently designed and each with superb defenses protecting the scoreboard when WE get the ball. I'd feel a whole lot better if I saw some kind of practical answer to these current weaknesses. Hopefully we'll begin to see them next Saturday against Vanderbilt.
 

Leakfan12

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Yeah I agree they need to tighten up. I know it's Vandy, if they take them lightly or they don't come down from the high from the LSU victory isn't going to be like what happened with FSU against NC State (though it started for the Noles against USF really). Also the 2006 season where they did high after being LSU and lost the next game at Auburn but still won the title. The offense needs to score in the first quarter (First Half) and have more balance (which shouldn't be a problem especially after facing LSU D and going against Vandy D). Also cut down on the penalties. Also they need to repeat last year's Vandy game that they almost lost. If they can go to College Station and Knoxville and win, they can do it in Vandy. Hope Coach Boom will have the players ready.
 
This may sound nuts; but I really do not think Alabama is a concern, we kind of have not gotten that far yet.

What I love about Coach Boom, is that he has abandoned the old coaching strategies of his predecessors and their calendar circling ideology.

Coach prepares one week at a team, even when we went 7-6, and I prefer his one week approach. We have to get better week to week.

It may not look like it Gator Fans; but the practice is really showing up on the field, I think the reason why the O is not clicking is that we have to remember they having first year Jitters. It is only their first year with Brent Pease.

Let's not Kill our Gators before they get started, do we have tough schedule, USC, UGA, FSU and Vandy as a trap game (Yes We Do); but Coach is not gonna let them boys get ahead of their selves.
 

NaffGutts

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Awesome post DRU, my thoughts exactly. I never saw Muschamps dedication until I saw the All Access special on ESPNU with Gator Football. The way he came in and took control, handled his staff, and gave direction was exactly what we needed. One of the first things he had his hands on was our Conditioning. Even the conditioning coaches do work-outs together before implementing them on their players. Everyone can see how much more physical we are, we hit, and hit hard, and do it play after play. And it was so awesome to watch Muschamp describe his childhood growing up in the Swamp, doing the Gator walk, and now being in the driver seat to what he calls his "dream job". He is doing awesome, even future recruits that are on the fence with other teams are committing strictly based on how they felt around our coach. Props to our AD for finding the puzzle piece we needed, everyone seemed to be looking in the wrong spots for the past 2 years, Urban leaving was our resurrection, and Muschamp and his staff will build up our Gator Nation to the dominant team we were before.

Go Gators.
 
Yea Boom picking up Brent Pease let me know he was serious about running the Defense and letting someone else Coach the Offense.

I do not fault him for hiring Charlie Weis, Charlie does have good ideas, they just never seem to materialize on paper. Plus he was not what Muschamp needed for his style of Play anyway.
 

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The more we consider and discuss these issues as the season goes along and we all sharpen our view of and gather practical information on this team and how much it now reflects where our Head Coach has the program headed, the more sure I am that it is for now NOT a matter of IF we're going to get to that place he told us we would when he took over, but rather simply a question of whether we'll be able to fill enough of the holes still remaining in some way THIS SEASON. We may well not be able to do so, at least not to the extent that we can pull off (what would be, let's face it) some stunning "early arrival at The Prize", a chance to play for the National Championship. We can SEE it from here, though, Gators, and that's kind of thrilling in itself--like driving west across America in Kansas say and coming over a rise to see the Rocky Mountains for the first time: "Oh YEAH! THAT'S what it looks like!"
Any loss, anything that derails this building feeling of an impossible dream not-yet-fulfilled but not-yet-deflated, will be disappointing, frustrating, a let-down from this point on...but we need to keep it in perspective if and when it occurs: We are on our way, and only have to keep driving.
 

NaffGutts

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Agreed, I think the best thing that comes out of wins like this, is the impact it's pointing of commits who were watching the last 2 years of Gator football, cause lets face it, it was ugly. But i'm optimistic and we may not be winning pretty, but we are winning, and usually from behind. The first 2 games people felt like it was a coincidence, but now, when we've won EVERY game except for Kentucky when we were behind, it's putting fear in the teams we still need to face and god forbid if we start our offense early. I really hope we can work the bugs out in our game with Vandy, because the rest of our schedule won't be the time to try.
 

Escambia94

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Three days later and Gators in SoCal are chomping each other in LA traffic and around town. Awesome!
 

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