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3-headed quarterback could emerge in Gainesville this fall

O-town Gator

Gator Fan
"Earlier this spring, University of Florida head football coach Urban Meyer hinted he was leaning toward employing a two-quarterback system in 2010 akin to the one the Gators ran during their 2006 national championship season. After Saturday, he might be considering a three-quarterback rotation.

As silly as it might be to expect a freshman to come out of high school and contribute meaningful playing time against Southeastern Conference competition, there are two rookie quarterbacks at Florida - Jordan Reed and Trey Burton - who will likely give opposing defensive coordinators fits. Neither will wow anyone with his throws just yet - Burton's passes often resembled wounded ducks this spring - but both have displayed a Tim Tebow-like running ability that has become such a staple in Gainesville."


Read more: http://www.fbnewsleader.com/articles/2010/04/16/sports/03john.txt
 

JvilleJohnny

Senior Member
once again, I think its a ploy. I think once Brantley gets in a rhythm during the game, they're not gonna take him out until clean up duty.

But I'm not the coaches. If it works... DO IT! haha
 

Escambia94

Aerospace Cubicle Engineer (ACE)
Moderator
once again, I think its a ploy. I think once Brantley gets in a rhythm during the game, they're not gonna take him out until clean up duty.

But I'm not the coaches. If it works... DO IT! haha

Check out how Alabama kept us off our toes with different formations, not to the extent of a 3-headed QB, but by lining up in the spread and the I to throw us off. One thing we should have learned last year is that the spread-option works great, but it has weaknesses that can more easily exploited than the I-formation. That is reason #5,327 why the NFL has used the I as its base formation for many years despite changes in defenses. That does not mean that other "gimmicks" will not work in the NFL or college--all I am saying is that if you had to pick one and only one base formation to line up with, the I-formation has survived the test of time. If you had to line up in one and only one formation and you chose the spread-option/2-read, you can get burnt by following Alabama's plan--shove a nose tackle up the middle, seal the edges, and employ a soft middle of the field.

My guess is that we learned to keep the spread-option as the base attack, but to use the numbers game from the spread-option to help decide when to line up in the I or the Wildcat. Urban Meyer's "Plan to Win" does not preclude the I-formation or single-wing. I think that Urban Meyer and his staff are smart enough to modify this year's attack to put in more plays using the other QB strengths when the numbers dictate to do so.
 

JvilleJohnny

Senior Member
Check out how Alabama kept us off our toes with different formations, not to the extent of a 3-headed QB, but by lining up in the spread and the I to throw us off. One thing we should have learned last year is that the spread-option works great, but it has weaknesses that can more easily exploited than the I-formation. That is reason #5,327 why the NFL has used the I as its base formation for many years despite changes in defenses. That does not mean that other "gimmicks" will not work in the NFL or college--all I am saying is that if you had to pick one and only one base formation to line up with, the I-formation has survived the test of time. If you had to line up in one and only one formation and you chose the spread-option/2-read, you can get burnt by following Alabama's plan--shove a nose tackle up the middle, seal the edges, and employ a soft middle of the field.

My guess is that we learned to keep the spread-option as the base attack, but to use the numbers game from the spread-option to help decide when to line up in the I or the Wildcat. Urban Meyer's "Plan to Win" does not preclude the I-formation or single-wing. I think that Urban Meyer and his staff are smart enough to modify this year's attack to put in more plays using the other QB strengths when the numbers dictate to do so.


true...I'm sure the I formation is going to be used pretty often this season, especially in the red zone. Just as we saw in the O&B game. But I think the spread can be used just as effectively, especially against teams like Alabama with a questionable secondary this year. Throwing around to a different receiver every play will make the corners and safeties play honest, and open up the running game.

I just hope the offense will resemble the one in the Sugar Bowl. We made a very good Cincy team look silly. And now we have a (IMO) better passer than Tebow to work with. And faster receivers as well.
 
all i know is i wanna see our real RB's getting more carries and less of this tebow pound it up the middle stuff


teams been working for 3 years to shut that down and have gotten better every year
 

Escambia94

Aerospace Cubicle Engineer (ACE)
Moderator
true...I'm sure the I formation is going to be used pretty often this season, especially in the red zone. Just as we saw in the O&B game. But I think the spread can be used just as effectively, especially against teams like Alabama with a questionable secondary this year. Throwing around to a different receiver every play will make the corners and safeties play honest, and open up the running game.

I just hope the offense will resemble the one in the Sugar Bowl. We made a very good Cincy team look silly. And now we have a (IMO) better passer than Tebow to work with. And faster receivers as well.

Alabama is onto our spread. Remember--they lined up in the spread and burned us in the SECCG. I think we will still use the spread against Alabama, but we will keep the I-formation and single-wing as backup plans if they match up against us too well. Bama can beat our spread, because they watched it for years and pretty much tailored a couple defensive packages just for us knowing that we were the team to beat. Now we have to turn the tables--they are the team to beat, and we know they designed a couple packages and recruited the talent to beat our spread. No one in the SEC has built a package to stop our I-formation, so we have the advantage for a year or so.

I do not want to be quick to jump on the "Brantley is a better passer" argument. I will just say that Brantley is different from Tebow who is different from Leak who is different from Grossman, etc.
 

JvilleJohnny

Senior Member
Alabama is onto our spread. Remember--they lined up in the spread and burned us in the SECCG. I think we will still use the spread against Alabama, but we will keep the I-formation and single-wing as backup plans if they match up against us too well. Bama can beat our spread, because they watched it for years and pretty much tailored a couple defensive packages just for us knowing that we were the team to beat. Now we have to turn the tables--they are the team to beat, and we know they designed a couple packages and recruited the talent to beat our spread. No one in the SEC has built a package to stop our I-formation, so we have the advantage for a year or so.

I do not want to be quick to jump on the "Brantley is a better passer" argument. I will just say that Brantley is different from Tebow who is different from Leak who is different from Grossman, etc.

I think what happened in the SECCG is that Alabama was more prepared than us, they wanted it more, and certain key members of the team decided that we could beat them lying down. IMO, last year's Gators and Tide teams were very even. And they figured out the "Tebow spread". which was getting pretty stale. triple option, Tebow up the middle, cross route by Hernandez, and every once in a while a deep pass to Cooper. It wasn't that hard to figure out. But anyway, This year's offense is going to have A LOT more options. And I think Bama is going to have trouble with it.

And you're right...Brantley is alot different than Tebow etc. I know Tebow is a better overall football player, but Brantley is just about as good a passer as I've seen.
 

Escambia94

Aerospace Cubicle Engineer (ACE)
Moderator
I think what happened in the SECCG is that Alabama was more prepared than us, they wanted it more, and certain key members of the team decided that we could beat them lying down. IMO, last year's Gators and Tide teams were very even. And they figured out the "Tebow spread". which was getting pretty stale. triple option, Tebow up the middle, cross route by Hernandez, and every once in a while a deep pass to Cooper. It wasn't that hard to figure out. But anyway, This year's offense is going to have A LOT more options. And I think Bama is going to have trouble with it.

And you're right...Brantley is alot different than Tebow etc. I know Tebow is a better overall football player, but Brantley is just about as good a passer as I've seen.

Good point. Our playbook did seem to only have one page or so last year.

As for Brantley, I cannot wait to see him light up the score board!
 

shandsgator8

VIP Member
I think what happened in the SECCG is that Alabama was more prepared than us, they wanted it more, and certain key members of the team decided that we could beat them lying down. IMO, last year's Gators and Tide teams were very even. And they figured out the "Tebow spread". which was getting pretty stale. triple option, Tebow up the middle, cross route by Hernandez, and every once in a while a deep pass to Cooper. It wasn't that hard to figure out. But anyway, This year's offense is going to have A LOT more options. And I think Bama is going to have trouble with it.

And you're right...Brantley is alot different than Tebow etc. I know Tebow is a better overall football player, but Brantley is just about as good a passer as I've seen.

Couldn't agree with you more....on both points.
 

CaliZona_Gator

Super Senior Member
Johnny, I think we have forgotten how predictable Adazzio was with his play calling, and how mad the fans were. I'm scared that we might see it again this year, and then we will need to try to get another play caller in here that can use Brantley to the best of his abilities.

But for now, I'm optimistic.
 

JvilleJohnny

Senior Member
Johnny, I think we have forgotten how predictable Adazzio was with his play calling, and how mad the fans were. I'm scared that we might see it again this year, and then we will need to try to get another play caller in here that can use Brantley to the best of his abilities.

But for now, I'm optimistic.

Well I think were going to see a little delegation with the play calling. Scot Loeffler and Zach Azzani could get involved along with Adazzio and Coach Meyer. Much like what happened in the Sugar Bowl. I think there is less pressure for perfection this year, which will open up the playbook a little more. Plus Brantley's not a running QB so they don't have to be concerned about him taking too many hits, as it was with Tebow.

Even though Adazzio is run first usually, I think he's gonna start having some fun with his QB.:bananapartyhat:
 

Escambia94

Aerospace Cubicle Engineer (ACE)
Moderator
Johnny, I think we have forgotten how predictable Adazzio was with his play calling, and how mad the fans were. I'm scared that we might see it again this year, and then we will need to try to get another play caller in here that can use Brantley to the best of his abilities.

But for now, I'm optimistic.

I read somewhere that Scott Loeffler will be getting more input on play calling, as he did against the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl. If that is true, we will be less predictable. Maybe.
 

O-town Gator

Gator Fan
I read somewhere that Scott Loeffler will be getting more input on play calling, as he did against the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl. If that is true, we will be less predictable. Maybe.

One of the reasons why I like the two-QB system. If anybody remembers back in 2006 when Tim Tebow connected on that short TD pass to Bubba Caldwell in the NC game, the Buckeye defense was prepared for a totally different play than what was executed. The more wrinkles we can add to our offense, the more of an advantage we have.
 

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