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Ben Volin: Jaguars may have to trade up to get Tim Tebow

Escambia94

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Danny Wuerffel was a Heisman winner who held a few NCAA records, and was a better NFL prospect. He went in the 4th round. Tom Brady is one of the greatest of all time, and he went in the 6th round. Don't get too hung up on Timmy going in the first round. I hope he goes in the first round for personal reasons, but players are not necessarily drafted based on what you or I think or even on what makes sense.
 

mjfan23

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Tebow turned some heads in the sugar bowl. Accuracy was displayed (against weak dbs). His biggest gripe will be the throwing motion, which has to be fixed.
 

Escambia94

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Tebow turned some heads in the sugar bowl. Accuracy was displayed (against weak dbs). His biggest gripe will be the throwing motion, which has to be fixed.

I don't understand the gripe about his throwing motion. His mechanics are no worse than Aaron Rodgers or Jason Campbell. Put Jason Campbell of the Redskins behind Aaron Rodger's line and he may have done better. Aaron Rodger's line improved over the season and his stats went up. Even Ben Roethlisberger's mechanics are wrong in a different way, but the guy can manage a game.

Between the Sugar Bowl and the NFL combines, I think some NFL teams will realize that they have been paying too much attention to sports pundits and not the scouts and players with firsthand experience who see something in Tebow that goes beyond a bad throwing motion. The NFL pays quite a few QBs millions that have the same bad throwing motion, but lack the athleticism that Tebow has to compensate.
 
Escambia94;49386[B said:
]I don't understand the gripe about his throwing motion. His mechanics are no worse than Aaron Rodgers or Jason Campbell. [/B]Put Jason Campbell of the Redskins behind Aaron Rodger's line and he may have done better. Aaron Rodger's line improved over the season and his stats went up. Even Ben Roethlisberger's mechanics are wrong in a different way, but the guy can manage a game.

Between the Sugar Bowl and the NFL combines, I think some NFL teams will realize that they have been paying too much attention to sports pundits and not the scouts and players with firsthand experience who see something in Tebow that goes beyond a bad throwing motion. The NFL pays quite a few QBs millions that have the same bad throwing motion, but lack the athleticism that Tebow has to compensate.
no way dude, tebow takes the ball super low in his wind up
 

gatorsare#1

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Not only does he take the ball near his thigh in his wind up, but in doing so it takes him alot longer than most to get the ball out.
The bolded part is what will concern the scouts imo.

You can have any throwing motion you want as a QB if the ball gets out quickly and accurately. But those extra seconds it takes for Tebow's delivery will become a major factor unless it is modified.
 

ShortBus

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you know, watching the sugar bowl, his delivery wasn't that bad. maybe it was just me but he seemed to get the ball out quicker than usual
 

O-town Gator

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Danny Wuerffel was a Heisman winner who held a few NCAA records, and was a better NFL prospect. He went in the 4th round. Tom Brady is one of the greatest of all time, and he went in the 6th round. Don't get too hung up on Timmy going in the first round. I hope he goes in the first round for personal reasons, but players are not necessarily drafted based on what you or I think or even on what makes sense.

Exactly; hey, there have been first-rounders who've either totally flopped or wound up down on the depth chart - Rex Grossman is a perfect example of that.
 

Escambia94

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no way dude, tebow takes the ball super low in his wind up

Not only does he take the ball near his thigh in his wind up, but in doing so it takes him alot longer than most to get the ball out.

I agree with both of you, but seriously check out Aaron Rodgers and Jason Campbell. To be fair, I did not watch Rodgers or Campbell when they first entered the NFL and I do not know how fast their defensive reads were. Maybe what the scouts are concerned about really is not his mechanics, but the combination of the speed at which he goes through progressions with his throwing motion. The spread offense is like the run-and-shoot--the reads are non-standard and force quick, short-progression reads. A run-and-shoot QB would have problems in the NFL just as a spread QB would using this logic. This would mean that Brantley would still likely get higher draft status because of his release, even if he is hindered by the spread option read stigma.
 

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