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One thing about the 1984 season I like to know

Leakfan12

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Why didn't the Gators play in a bowl game? They weren't punish yet. Wasn't the punishments handled down after that season? Hey the 1980 SMU team was investigate during that season after beat Texas (2nd ranked at that time) and they played in the Holiday Bowl (which BYU came back from 20 points down in 4 minutes to win), 2010 Auburn, last year's TOSU team, among others. Something didn't smell right about that.
 

Escambia94

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The NCAA began its investigation in 1982. Charley Pell admitted wrongdoing the summer of 1984, but he asked to stay on until the end of the season. In that summer, any player that wanted to transfer out or switch commitments, did transfer or change commitments. The Gators lost a couple high profile recruits, including two QBs. Somewhere around game three of the season, the NCAA told the school president, Marshal Criser, that the problem was a lot bigger than what Pell had let on. It was not a dozen infractions--it was over a hundred! Pell was immediately fired, and the NCAA immediately started the sanction process, which included immediate DQ from a post-season bowl game. Note that the Gators were still named national champs by several polls, including the New York Times. In December 1984, immediately after the 1984-1985 season ended, the SEC university presidents voted to strip Florida of its SEC title. The NCAA did not levy its scholarship punishments until January 1985--they banned Florida from TV for two years and reduced scholarships for the next three.

In short: there was no bowl game in 1984-1985 because the NCAA had preliminary findings in 1983-1984, with actionable evidence by game three of 1984.
 

Leakfan12

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That is a crock of Bulls--t, seriously how much money and hookers (or prostitutes whatever you want to call them) do the other schools sent to the NCAA like Ponzi U to not get penalize like the Gators were. They should have went to the bowl game and won the title (BYU didn't face anyone tough) instead of the NCAA making the rules as they go along. To quote a favorite target of the NCAA Coach Tark of UNLV "The Mob Had stronger Morals than the NCAA,"
F--K the NCAA.
 

DRU2012

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That is a crock of Bulls--t, seriously how much money and hookers (or prostitutes whatever you want to call them) do the other schools sent to the NCAA like Ponzi U to not get penalize like the Gators were. They should have went to the bowl game and won the title (BYU didn't face anyone tough) instead of the NCAA making the rules as they go along. To quote a favorite target of the NCAA Coach Tark of UNLV "The Mob Had stronger Morals than the NCAA,"
F--K the NCAA.

That's certainly the way most GATORS felt--and the New York Times as well, which as I recall DID name US the National Champions at the end of that year, and for practically the exact same reasons and logic (more delicately argued, of course) as yours, LF.
No one ever did or HAS explained why or how the NCAA could with straight-faces make ANY of those determinations in the face of the ongoing behavior and practices at ANY of the most famously successful programs--including Notre Dame, USC, Oklahoma and practically every SEC team, to name just a few--before and during that same period of time
(...First Charley, then Galen I think honestly believed that was what they were BROUGHT IN to do here, in order to finally have us "realize our potential" and "finally get where we oughta be"--"awaken the sleeping giant", as Bear Bryant put it years before...But finally it was SS who came in understanding that we'd have to somehow do it cleaner than ever before, that UF was going to be held to a higher, near-impossible standard of public and private behavior if we were going to reach those heights AND get to KEEP the rewards.)
 

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