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Updated Ranking of Florida Gator QBs since 2004

Escambia94

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Tim Tebow left the University of Florida with a career passer rating of 170.8. Chris Leak left with a career passer rating of 140.1. If we ignore the 2017 season, Feleipe Franks would have a "career passer rating" of 144.3. For comparison, here is a ranking of the QBs who followed Leak and Tebow (minimum of 40 attempts):
  1. Will Grier 145.6
  2. Feleipe Franks (adjusted, 2018 only) 144.3
  3. Kyle Trask 140.5
  4. Jeff Driskel (with Louisiana Tech stats) 134.1
  5. Malik Zaire (with Notre Dame stats) 133.5
  6. John Brantley 133.3
  7. Feleipe Franks 130.7
  8. Skyler Mornhinweg 128.2
  9. Austin Appleby 128.0
  10. Treon Harris 127.1
  11. Tyler Murphy (with Boston College stats) 123.9
  12. Tyler Murphy 121.1
  13. Luke Del Rio 118.3
  14. Jeff Driskel 117.8
  15. Jordan Reed 117.2
  16. Austin Appleby (with Purdue stats) 114.3
  17. Jacoby Brissett 109.6
  18. Malik Zaire 104.9
In case you were wondering, I left Emory Jones out because he only has 16 attempts. In those 16 attempts he has a passer rating of 181.9. Trey Burton had a rating of 103.8 in 17 attempts. Jordan Reed had 46 attempts, so his stats are included above. Skyler Mornhinweg had 63 attempts. Malik Zaire had 56 attempts for Florida.
 

Escambia94

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Here is another perspective:

  • Danny Wuerffel 1993 FR 159/273 58.2% 2230 YDS 22 10 146.1 RAT
  • Danny Wuerffel 1994 SO 132/212 62.3% 1754 YDS 18 9 151.3 RAT
  • Danny Wuerffel 1995 JR 210/325 64.6% 3266 YDS 35 10 178.4 RAT
  • Danny Wuerffel 1996 SR 207/360 57.5% 3625 YDS 39 TD 13 INT 170.6 RAT
  • Doug Johnson 1997 SO 148/269 55.0% 2023 YDS 21 TD 12 INT 135.0 RAT
  • Doug Johnson 1998 JR 154 274/56.2 2346 YDS 19 TD 8 INT 145.2 RAT
  • Jesse Palmer 1998 SO 73/123 59.3% 1246 YDS 14 TD 5 INT 173.9 RAT
  • Doug Johnson 1999 SR 190/337 56.4% 2574 YDS 20 TD 13 INT 132.4 RAT
  • Rex Grossman 2000 FR 131/212 61.8% 1866 YDS 21 TD 7 INT 161.8 RAT
  • Jesse Palmer 2000 SR 116/223 52.0% 1653 YDS 11 TD 4 INT 127.0 RAT
  • Rex Grossman 2001 SO 259/395 65.6% 3896 YDS 34 TD 12 INT 170.8 RAT
  • Rex Grossman 2002 JR 287/503 57.1% 3402 YDS 22 TD 17 INT 121.5 RAT
  • Chris Leak 2003 FR 190/320 59.4% 2435 YDS 16 TD 11 INT 132.9 RAT
  • Chris Leak 2004 SO 238/399 59.6% 3197 YDS 29 TD 12 INT 144.9 RAT
  • Chris Leak 2005 JR 235/374 62.8% 2639 YDS 20 TD 6 INT 136.5 RAT
  • Chris Leak 2006 SR 232/365 63.6% 2942 YDS 23 TD 13 INT 144.9 RAT
  • Tim Tebow 2007 SO 234/350 66.9% 3286 YDS 32 TD 6 INT 172.5 RAT
  • Tim Tebow 2008 JR 192/298 64.4% 2746 YDS 30 TD 4 INT 172.4 RAT
  • Tim Tebow 2009 SR 213/314 67.8% 2895 YDS 21 TD 5 INT 164.2 RAT
  • John Brantley 2010 JR 200/329 60.8% 2061 YDS 9 TD 10 INT 116.4 RAT
  • John Brantley 2011 SR 144/240 60.0% 2044 YDS 11 TD 7 INT 140.8 RAT
  • Jeff Driskel 2012 SO 156/245 63.7% 1646 YDS 12 TD 5 INT 132.2 RAT
  • Jeff Driskel 2013 JR QB 42/61 68.9% 477 YDS 2 TD 3 INT 135.5 RAT
  • Jeff Driskel 2014 JR QB 114/212 53.8% 1140 YDS 9 TD 10 INT 103.5 RAT
  • Treon Harris 2014 FR 55/111 49.5% 1019 YDS 9 TD 4 INT 146.2 RAT
  • Treon Harris 2015 SO QB 119/235 50.6% 1676 YDS 9 TD 6 INT 118.1 RAT
  • Will Grier 2015 FR QB 105/160 65.6% 1202 YDS 10 TD 3 INT 145.6 RAT
  • Austin Appleby 2016 TR-SR 127/209 60.8% 1447 YDS 10 TD 7 INT 128.0 RAT
  • Luke Del Rio 2016 TR-SO 114/201 56.7% 1358 YDS 8 TD 8 INT 118.6 RAT
  • Luke Del Rio 2017 TR-JR 16/25 64.0% 138 YDS 1 TD 1 INT 115.6 RAT
  • Feleipe Franks 2017 FR 125/229 54.6% 1438 YDS 9 TD 8 INT 113.3 RAT
  • Feleipe Franks 2018 SO 175/299 58.5% 2284 YDS 7.6 23 TD 6 INT 144.1 RAT
 

DRU2012

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Perhaps it is the ways they are grouped, or maybe this is just one instance where "the numbers" OBSCURE rather than CLARIFY the "proper ordering" of relative success among our many and various quarterbacks over a generation...
WHATEVER the reason, I find neither clarity nor perspective in the lists and numbers above.
In point of fact, it seems faster, easier and WAY more effective simply harkening back for a moment in our collective mind's eye...
Think about it; consider the matter. Do you see? The years and young men at the position following a high wavy line if traced as a graph, names like Johnson and Grossman and Wuerfel and Palmer wavering between good, very good and great and trending eventually upwards to Leak and Tebow--that line then plunging like Black Friday down among the Brantleys, Driskels and so on, these latter condemned NOT in their outright incompetence but (whether the fault of their failure or that of the Coaches who chose, led and used them during that time) in their utter inability to realize ANY of their oh-so-promising talent on-the-FIELD, where it might have made a difference...After Tebow then almost a DECADE of light-gone-out, until very recently, the slow dawn that has been somehow even embodied in young Franks' slow emergence--and now, just as HE begins to achieve real practical competence, true competition in the form of prodigulious natural talent appears to be about to arise behind him.
You see what I mean? I THINK I can achieve a necessarily broader overview intuitively--and that based only on flawed emotional memory whose accuracy is limited by its very nature: fading with time!
Either way, no matter how we slice it, at some point it seems maybe best, certainly EASIEST to learn what little can be learned looking back in terms of "not making THOSE mistakes again!" (and I am sanguine about how much time, effort and/or utility is well spent now there), and mostly just to turn to the present and future:
Hope we got the right Coach now (good sign: THIS one's nickname is "The Quarterback Whisperer"--more promising, for eg, than something like, oh, "Turf Eater", right?), and for now go with the ones, Coach AND Quarterback, that in similar intuitive fashion "GET IT!".
That'll be mainly the skill, choices and responsibility of that Coach and his staff, and how this current "QB Crop" responds to their work with them in the system that they are chosen and groomed for--and how that system evolves to accomodate their flaws and strengths. In each case, QB and system, one is molded to the other as required. There are already many signs that THIS Head Coach SPECIALIZES in EXACTLY that process. I am oversimplifying, yes--but the overall resulting FEELING that there is thus "cause for much hope" is the important "main bullet point" here.
 

Escambia94

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Perhaps it is the ways they are grouped, or maybe this is just one instance where "the numbers" OBSCURE rather than CLARIFY the "proper ordering" of relative success among our many and various quarterbacks over a generation...
WHATEVER the reason, I find neither clarity nor perspective in the lists and numbers above.
In point of fact, it seems faster, easier and WAY more effective simply harkening back for a moment in our collective mind's eye...
Think about it; consider the matter. Do you see? The years and young men at the position following a high wavy line if traced as a graph, names like Johnson and Grossman and Wuerfel and Palmer wavering between good, very good and great and trending eventually upwards to Leak and Tebow--that line then plunging like Black Friday down among the Brantleys, Driskels and so on, these latter condemned NOT in their outright incompetence but (whether the fault of their failure or that of the Coaches who chose, led and used them during that time) in their utter inability to realize ANY of their oh-so-promising talent on-the-FIELD, where it might have made a difference...After Tebow then almost a DECADE of light-gone-out, until very recently, the slow dawn that has been somehow even embodied in young Franks' slow emergence--and now, just as HE begins to achieve real practical competence, true competition in the form of prodigulious natural talent appears to be about to arise behind him.
You see what I mean? I THINK I can achieve a necessarily broader overview intuitively--and that based only on flawed emotional memory whose accuracy is limited by its very nature: fading with time!
Either way, no matter how we slice it, at some point it seems maybe best, certainly EASIEST to learn what little can be learned looking back in terms of "not making THOSE mistakes again!" (and I am sanguine about how much time, effort and/or utility is well spent now there), and mostly just to turn to the present and future:
Hope we got the right Coach now (good sign: THIS one's nickname is "The Quarterback Whisperer"--more promising, for eg, than something like, oh, "Turf Eater", right?), and for now go with the ones, Coach AND Quarterback, that in similar intuitive fashion "GET IT!".
That'll be mainly the skill, choices and responsibility of that Coach and his staff, and how this current "QB Crop" responds to their work with them in the system that they are chosen and groomed for--and how that system evolves to accomodate their flaws and strengths. In each case, QB and system, one is molded to the other as required. There are already many signs that THIS Head Coach SPECIALIZES in EXACTLY that process. I am oversimplifying, yes--but the overall resulting FEELING that there is thus "cause for much hope" is the important "main bullet point" here.

I have not found a way to embed graphs into the forum. For now I am parking the data here so I can graph it later and upload an image.

The basic message is that Feleipe Franks is moving into the top of tier 2 in terms of Gator QBs, and he did this by investing his off-season in QB camps and by working hard in practice.

Tier 1 QBs (rating above 160): Danny Wuerffel, Tim Tebow, Jesse Palmer, Rex Grossman

Tier 2 QBs (rating above 140): Doug Johnson, Chris Leak, Feleipe Franks, Will Grier

Tier 3 QBs (rating above 120): most Gator QBs since 2009

Bottom Tier QBs (rating below 120): too many to admit

Franks was in the bottom tier in 2017, and improved two tiers in a year in the same way Driskel, Brissett, and Grier all improved 20 points by switching teams.
 
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DRU2012

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I have not found a way to embed graphs into the forum. For now I am parking the data here so I can graph it later and upload an image.

The basic message is that Feleipe Franks is moving into the top of tier 2 in terms of Gator QBs, and he did this by investing his off-season in QB camps and by working hard in practice.

Tier 1 QBs (rating above 160): Danny Wuerffel, Tim Tebow, Jesse Palmer, Rex Grossman

Tier 2 QBs (rating above 140): Doug Johnson, Chris Leak, Feleipe Franks, Will Grier

Tier 3 QBs (rating above 120): most Gator QBs since 2009

Bottom Tier QBs (rating below 120): too many to admit

Franks was in the bottom tier in 2017, and improved two tiers in a year in the same way Driskel, Brissett, and Grier all improved 20 points by switching teams.
Interesting: Your clarification does exactly what you intended--to sharpen and help to draw conclusions from the data: The ones you go on to note above.
The actual graphing would help someone still unclear or unconvinced VISUALIZE the "proof" (we are hard-wired for visual analysis, after all), but I think we now have a cogent view of the "who, how and WHY" of our "Gator QB ups and downs" over the last 20+ years--no small feat.
Now, whether ANYTHING, there or elsewhere can help us do better from here is unknown--perhaps unknowABLE...We kept trying to find the right Coach (its OWN near-impossible task and decision to divine in advance, as we have flounderingly demonstrated), and THINK we have finally LUCKED INTO one ( I use that expression, "LUCKED INTO", BECAUSE it IS in the end such a deeply complex combination of insight, psychology, timing and then, finally, a longshot roll-of-the-dice then WAIT AND SEE).
But that is all we can do now: WAIT AND SEE. We can comment, judge progress based on results as Coach himself sees, reacts and adapts...Trust his wisdom, experience, and the assumption that he has by now amassed enough of each to unflinchingly (and if necessary, devoid of sentimentality) keep his ultimate goal as Head Coach in the center of his focus: Build an elite, winning program once more at University of Florida.
The best, most reassuring evidence that we are right, correct in assuming "by-the-evidence" that Dan Mullen IS "The One", that "one special Coach" we have been searching for, the next one to forge the next "link in the chain" of Great Gator Teams and then proceed to SUSTAIN that goal, is simply the FEELING that he is a GATOR HIMSELF, that he ultimately WANTED this job, the specific job of "Gator Head Coach" in particular--and now that he has arrived has quickly and thoroughly immersed himself in that role: A Gator thru and THRU.
You DON'T get the feeling that the high pay, the simple fact of heading up ANY MAJOR COLLEGE PROGRAM, lead them to the very top of the hierarchy and oversee their installation there for years to come, is or WAS EVER alone his main goal: Unlike the others (even Muschamp, whom we THOUGHT was that guy just because he was FROM Gainesville--but life and learned-practicality had already taught him to recognize flawed assumptions and quickly adapt accordingly--and that's what he did: gave up whatever dreams he had and jumped at "the next opportunity", it turned out), I now truly believe that doing so at The University of Florida, as GATOR Head Coach, was Mullen's specific main goal--to the point of near-obsessive determination, even stubborness--that he had and would have continued to make his career choices with that same, unfailing ultimate consideration in mind. Maybe that's what it takes, and THAT is why he has slipped so fully, comfortably and convincingly into the role here now...and why he WILL succeed here now in the tough and over-the-TOP manner that is demanded.
 

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