This offensive line is getting QBs injured, and increasing likelihood of RBs getting injured or losing yards. I read somewhere that our backup QBs are also injured, so we are in trouble if Zaire or Franks were banged up today.
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Gator Gameday 11/11: "Like deja vu all over again..."
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@Leakfan12, @Escambia94,
I'm hearing Malik IS gone--for GOOD at UF as far as his getting back on the field, in a game: Even if the MRI back home at Shands shows just strain, no tears or worse on the knee, the EARLIEST he'd possibly be back is in 6 weeks, absolutely best-case...and since we're not gonna qualify for a bowl game, his next "big game day" will likely be the NFL combines.
Meanwhile, the Florida school and team I truly despise more than any other to the nth degree, Miami is poised to move into the upper echelons, has only to win out against the mostly mediocre annual competion in its (certainly compared to the fratracidal SEC) relatively weak conference-of-patsies it plays in to gain a top-4 ranking and a place in the FF4 (Football Final 4).
Now, as for what we're gonna DO about it all, Mr. Frost's young charges down at UCF have "held serve" as far as continuing his and their rolling wave of scoring continues to surge and lead the nation on offense. I don't know if it'd be The Right Move or not--and at this point have any more insight than anyone ELSE into where we're headed as to who we're leaning towards now, BTW--but Scot certainly hasn't hurt himself in this regard...In fact, IF "the latest hot young up'n'coming, can't miss guy", and "a brilliant offensive mind to boot" are where the weight is falling, it starts to have the look, sound and feel to many of "a no brainer", I'm sure. In fact, perhaps the ONLY reason it isn't already "a done deal" I'd hazard is because variations on the above have ruled THE LAST TWO SUCH DECISIONS--almost EXACTLY THE SAME on the last one--and it just HASN'T WORKED!!! So maybe we SHOULD consider and weigh things like "experience", "character", and "balance" more carefully this time, as well.
E-made a good point a few days back about how the best Head Coaches at major programs is as much a CEO as anything else now--his personality and influence in bringing together a great staff, administering and overseeing their parts as they become a whole as much or MORE important than any expertese and/or specialized knowledge and previous success in any particular area himself.
But Frost is getting a lot of attention now, more and more on a weekly basis. The decision SHOULDN'T be made on that basis alone--but it still could, lets face it. Not saying he ISN'T the right call...only we don't have the room-to-be-wrong now--not THIS time. Mac was that guy, that risk THEN. You hire Frost because you are convinced he is "the right man-for-the-job in multiple ways large and small--AND he's a brilliant young creative force in modern offensive strategy and tactics!"--all right here, right now. You can't just figure, "Well, that mid-major program of his is tearing up his mid-level competition points-wise, and we have trouble scoring--let's throw the dice again!" Recipe for ANOTHER "Deja vu DISASTER"!
And btw, I too have heard that if Malik IS outta the picture, a WR (albeit one who was a midlevel prep QB) would be our next-in line backup...and as E-notes, with our O-line (amounting to practically NO LINE AT ALL) and weekly experience that seems likely. In fact, one might well argue that if we hope to have Franks as at the very least the presumptive starter going INTO '18, we should sit him and play the WR NOW...
I'm hearing Malik IS gone--for GOOD at UF as far as his getting back on the field, in a game: Even if the MRI back home at Shands shows just strain, no tears or worse on the knee, the EARLIEST he'd possibly be back is in 6 weeks, absolutely best-case...and since we're not gonna qualify for a bowl game, his next "big game day" will likely be the NFL combines.
Meanwhile, the Florida school and team I truly despise more than any other to the nth degree, Miami is poised to move into the upper echelons, has only to win out against the mostly mediocre annual competion in its (certainly compared to the fratracidal SEC) relatively weak conference-of-patsies it plays in to gain a top-4 ranking and a place in the FF4 (Football Final 4).
Now, as for what we're gonna DO about it all, Mr. Frost's young charges down at UCF have "held serve" as far as continuing his and their rolling wave of scoring continues to surge and lead the nation on offense. I don't know if it'd be The Right Move or not--and at this point have any more insight than anyone ELSE into where we're headed as to who we're leaning towards now, BTW--but Scot certainly hasn't hurt himself in this regard...In fact, IF "the latest hot young up'n'coming, can't miss guy", and "a brilliant offensive mind to boot" are where the weight is falling, it starts to have the look, sound and feel to many of "a no brainer", I'm sure. In fact, perhaps the ONLY reason it isn't already "a done deal" I'd hazard is because variations on the above have ruled THE LAST TWO SUCH DECISIONS--almost EXACTLY THE SAME on the last one--and it just HASN'T WORKED!!! So maybe we SHOULD consider and weigh things like "experience", "character", and "balance" more carefully this time, as well.
E-made a good point a few days back about how the best Head Coaches at major programs is as much a CEO as anything else now--his personality and influence in bringing together a great staff, administering and overseeing their parts as they become a whole as much or MORE important than any expertese and/or specialized knowledge and previous success in any particular area himself.
But Frost is getting a lot of attention now, more and more on a weekly basis. The decision SHOULDN'T be made on that basis alone--but it still could, lets face it. Not saying he ISN'T the right call...only we don't have the room-to-be-wrong now--not THIS time. Mac was that guy, that risk THEN. You hire Frost because you are convinced he is "the right man-for-the-job in multiple ways large and small--AND he's a brilliant young creative force in modern offensive strategy and tactics!"--all right here, right now. You can't just figure, "Well, that mid-major program of his is tearing up his mid-level competition points-wise, and we have trouble scoring--let's throw the dice again!" Recipe for ANOTHER "Deja vu DISASTER"!
And btw, I too have heard that if Malik IS outta the picture, a WR (albeit one who was a midlevel prep QB) would be our next-in line backup...and as E-notes, with our O-line (amounting to practically NO LINE AT ALL) and weekly experience that seems likely. In fact, one might well argue that if we hope to have Franks as at the very least the presumptive starter going INTO '18, we should sit him and play the WR NOW...
Right now the 2017 Gators are in the same situation as the 2013 Gators. In 2013, the Gators had 62 healthy players and were playing their 3rd string QB and RB. In 2017, the Gators have 56 healthy players and are playing a QB who was demoted to 2nd string multiple times this year, and they are playing the 3rd string RB.
Right now, the Mighty Gators are definitely in danger of losing to 7-3 UAB, which has won three straight.
@Escambia94, @Leakfan12, @awebbf5,
It's time y'all consider joining me in "Self-Adjustment Land":
The idea here in MY world (just East of "Blind Denial Island") is to put a serious damper on our long-programmed emotional attachment to season record, and a victory-above-all-else approach to each game. TRY instead to see these last few games as an elaborate search for holes, needs--missing talent, pride, imagination and vision...and overall as a series of intense scrimmages in preparation for recruitment and the 2018 season.
Envision this for us ALREADY the "off season", where losses in these "scrimmages" don't count in the season-to-come, but at the same time show us everything we need to see and know in this pre-NSD, pre-game-1 LONGEST-of-winter/spring/summer-camps.
See what I mean? Almost "feels better already", right? Least takes the sting out to some extent. Makes us more circumspect, clearheaded.
And we're gonna need it. Not just to sop up some of the pain, but to step back, calculate, give us practical clarity.
I for one wanna be able to evaluate the wisdom of "The CHOICE"--and in turn the choices that will follow as a result--when it comes. Only then, in this way, will I have any idea if the potential flood of hope and optimism pent up, packed deep down and hidden away inside, can once more be allowed to come rushing back in. We've ridden this cruel ride multiple times in a row now, and it's just too damn much: It WILL be there and ready when the time comes, BUT: They don't GET to just tell us a story and we melt. Not this time.
So the "process"--"Search, hire, replace, change, recruit, install, recover, build, practice, and begin playing GAMES-THAT-COUNT once more"--That's Phase 1.
The actual games of the 2018 season will tell us where we're headed, and what ensues will determine all to come--and theoretically at least, along the way we'll be either convinced, or NOT...
...Of course, that's my THEORY. I watch the whole picture. Step back, make 'em convince me. No way it quite works out that way. The dam will crack, I'll LET it all come rushing back, 'cause I love our school, program and TEAM--and on some level WANNA BELIEVE. But for now, it's the best story I've got, the one to tell myself "in the meantime". And for now, it's workimg rather well: I don't hurt near so much, I DO tend to see things more clearly, and I don't HAVE to just cut myself off from college football entirely until next August ( like, for example, 2013).
I highly recommend it.
It's time y'all consider joining me in "Self-Adjustment Land":
The idea here in MY world (just East of "Blind Denial Island") is to put a serious damper on our long-programmed emotional attachment to season record, and a victory-above-all-else approach to each game. TRY instead to see these last few games as an elaborate search for holes, needs--missing talent, pride, imagination and vision...and overall as a series of intense scrimmages in preparation for recruitment and the 2018 season.
Envision this for us ALREADY the "off season", where losses in these "scrimmages" don't count in the season-to-come, but at the same time show us everything we need to see and know in this pre-NSD, pre-game-1 LONGEST-of-winter/spring/summer-camps.
See what I mean? Almost "feels better already", right? Least takes the sting out to some extent. Makes us more circumspect, clearheaded.
And we're gonna need it. Not just to sop up some of the pain, but to step back, calculate, give us practical clarity.
I for one wanna be able to evaluate the wisdom of "The CHOICE"--and in turn the choices that will follow as a result--when it comes. Only then, in this way, will I have any idea if the potential flood of hope and optimism pent up, packed deep down and hidden away inside, can once more be allowed to come rushing back in. We've ridden this cruel ride multiple times in a row now, and it's just too damn much: It WILL be there and ready when the time comes, BUT: They don't GET to just tell us a story and we melt. Not this time.
So the "process"--"Search, hire, replace, change, recruit, install, recover, build, practice, and begin playing GAMES-THAT-COUNT once more"--That's Phase 1.
The actual games of the 2018 season will tell us where we're headed, and what ensues will determine all to come--and theoretically at least, along the way we'll be either convinced, or NOT...
...Of course, that's my THEORY. I watch the whole picture. Step back, make 'em convince me. No way it quite works out that way. The dam will crack, I'll LET it all come rushing back, 'cause I love our school, program and TEAM--and on some level WANNA BELIEVE. But for now, it's the best story I've got, the one to tell myself "in the meantime". And for now, it's workimg rather well: I don't hurt near so much, I DO tend to see things more clearly, and I don't HAVE to just cut myself off from college football entirely until next August ( like, for example, 2013).
I highly recommend it.
I think it's more rock stars period their infamous for drug use even to this day. Some recover and some don't.
You're right, of course, my friend.
But though less pervasive or across the board stereotypical, that period of time (especially in that business--"Just say no"...what a joke) was characterised by a similar "greater concentration" of that kind of self-destruction--and hence the same conclusion ("Some recover...some don't") could be assumed.
Turns out the wiser advice, and eventual challenge that led to success--in fact SURVIVAL--for most was more like, "Just walk on...".
