awebbf5
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Looks like d is tired. Nuss kept calling run plays when it wasn't working. Looks like the streak ends today. Smh
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Gator Gameday: Goin' to Rocky Top
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awebbf5
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Well I guess we are back to square one just a middle feeder in the sec. I really wish Lamar Jackson would have committed to us
This has been SO sad. I mean, we HAD them--then fell apart. I don't even know what to say. It has been a full-team-and-staff failure, clearly.
I have not seen a collapse like this on our team's part, like, EVER.
Almost as hard to believe as it is to TAKE.
Well, now all the pundits get to say, "We were right, on BOTH counts: Tennessee is good, the Gators not so much..."
Sigh. Well, we just surrendered 24 pts in just over 4 minutes. Sure LOOKS that way. And I see NO sign on O or D that we have anything left at ALL--and no real plan from our coaching staff either.
That's the worst part of this, imho. They are losing control of their team (Powell thrown out for "throwing a punch"??!!!), after apparently not having much idea bout what to do with an 18 POINT LEAD coming outta the half???
Yikes. This has really hurt...and I must tell you, it has turned out to be, from where I'm standing, the first major "crack" in my admiration and confidence in Mac and his current staff. They have looked more and more bewildered over there--and continue to be out-coached. The defensecos now on its own; tired, ill-prepared and ill-coacjed now, and they have been our only hope.
Our guys have ZERO ENERGY. They are already beat.
I am outta here. This has been the worst Gator performance, top to bottom, in a long time. And much of the blame, its most embarrassingly confused gutless outright SURRENDER-on-the-field, falls directly on the Head Coach's shoulders.
And it has shaken the confidence of this team to its CORE. OK. 38 consequtive points after we had them DOWN, 3 TDs.
I don't know. It has shaken MY confidence in our future. 11 yds of offence by our guys in the 2nd half, while the D just faded, then gave up, it seemed...but it has been the ineffective COACHING that led to all this in the first place.
We are NOT anywhere NEAR as far along as I'd hoped--and I am no longer so sure this Coach and staff have the answers.
They have GOT to recruit even better than they have so far. Our ONLY hope, mid to long term, is to get a better portion of those top-rated Florida kids...That's what got Tennessee all the preseason hype--and though I don't think they are much better than our squad, getting talent is ALWAYS the difference between "good" and "Champions". We are probably ready to be "pretty good", but not even CLOSE to any kind of Championship, let alone the Big One.
I have not seen a collapse like this on our team's part, like, EVER.
Almost as hard to believe as it is to TAKE.
Well, now all the pundits get to say, "We were right, on BOTH counts: Tennessee is good, the Gators not so much..."
Sigh. Well, we just surrendered 24 pts in just over 4 minutes. Sure LOOKS that way. And I see NO sign on O or D that we have anything left at ALL--and no real plan from our coaching staff either.
That's the worst part of this, imho. They are losing control of their team (Powell thrown out for "throwing a punch"??!!!), after apparently not having much idea bout what to do with an 18 POINT LEAD coming outta the half???
Yikes. This has really hurt...and I must tell you, it has turned out to be, from where I'm standing, the first major "crack" in my admiration and confidence in Mac and his current staff. They have looked more and more bewildered over there--and continue to be out-coached. The defensecos now on its own; tired, ill-prepared and ill-coacjed now, and they have been our only hope.
Our guys have ZERO ENERGY. They are already beat.
I am outta here. This has been the worst Gator performance, top to bottom, in a long time. And much of the blame, its most embarrassingly confused gutless outright SURRENDER-on-the-field, falls directly on the Head Coach's shoulders.
And it has shaken the confidence of this team to its CORE. OK. 38 consequtive points after we had them DOWN, 3 TDs.
I don't know. It has shaken MY confidence in our future. 11 yds of offence by our guys in the 2nd half, while the D just faded, then gave up, it seemed...but it has been the ineffective COACHING that led to all this in the first place.
We are NOT anywhere NEAR as far along as I'd hoped--and I am no longer so sure this Coach and staff have the answers.
They have GOT to recruit even better than they have so far. Our ONLY hope, mid to long term, is to get a better portion of those top-rated Florida kids...That's what got Tennessee all the preseason hype--and though I don't think they are much better than our squad, getting talent is ALWAYS the difference between "good" and "Champions". We are probably ready to be "pretty good", but not even CLOSE to any kind of Championship, let alone the Big One.
Yeah, you said it--all of it...But it was the way we totally collapsed here, couldn't even manage to keep it close--there's that late Gator TD, but if we coulda played ANY D when it still made a diff we'd at least be within a score here at the end.
I don't think it was Appleby's fault--but he IS the journeyman-level QB he was reputed to be. I don't know if Delrio is THAT much more skilled--but I think he is the more fiery LEADER by far, and that might have made some difference, helped get the D some needed rest anyway. But we need one of those "special guys": We're Florida, so we SHOULD have a shot every year at "that guy", if he's there.
But we have problems all OVER the field, turns out. Look at Calloway: he has obvious strengths, star talent--but he makes ridiculous mistakes--I mean, he KEPT making the same one, in wirse and worse positions deep on punt receptions (and only our early D kept those from killing us in the FIRST half)...and that's just one of a number of weaknesses that were revealed all OVER the field, both sides of the ball, today...
But the most discouraging part has been the poor adjustments AND bewildered aimlessness on the SIDELINES, by our coaching staff, that was most disappointing today--and worries me the most. 'Cause unless they ( especially our HEAD Coach) are as good as I thought, you will comtinue to be right: we will STAY the "mid-level feeders" who have "pretty good seasons", get some attention here and there, and usually have a shot at a New Year's Day Bowl--but that ISN'T what ANYONE is brought in here for now...Mac KNOWS he is here to make the playoffs, win the East, beat the West then at least PLAY for The Championship.
awebbf5
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Del Rio being out really killed us I believe with our offense.
awebbf5
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Agreed we didn't bring him here to go to outback bowls and win a few games. He was brough here to win a natty
Coach Mac is supposed to be an offensive minded coach and yet they only got what eight yards in the third quarter? Not the time to let up on the gas pedal, well anytime really. It was time to stomp on it even with the new QB. Guessing Appleby didn't start a game in Michigan (AKA the Big House).
Exactly--and normally I'd wanna hear what he has to say post game...But given the way we TOTALLY collapsed in the 2nd half, and yeah, had seemingly NO plan except to hold ON when we came out after the break, well--What's he gonna say that I need to hear right now? "Yeah--we KNOW that was inept COACHING, Coach!"...and no Godawful "learning experience", either--that was so bad a collapse, in every way, I would seriously and strongly recommend y'all just BURN THE FILM! I mean it--and make that a kind of ritual that basically comprises your Sunday "postgame postmortem" this time. Y'all are starting all over, for REAL!
That was one of the most flounderingly INEPT COACHING jobs I have ever witnessed--surpassing even some of Muschamp's more egregious "we got 10 points let's hang on" efforts...It sunk into Addazio-range. I am in a state of numb shock: I thought we'd come a lot farther than that.
If coach Mac was running offense under Saban (he was the Alabama OC under Saban a few years ago) like that Saban would have yelled at him. His conversative play calling didn't get any yards and the defense got tired.
This is the worst early/mid-season loss since Miss St, Tebow and The Promise postgame..but no Tebow to lift us now.
All in all, this is the worst I've felt about the FUTURE of Gator football since the week of the '09 SEC Championship game, culminating in THAT 2nd half beat down.
I am not interested in analysis or recriminations from Coach Mac or any of the TV talking heads now. We have a long way to go, a WHOLE lotta work to do--and we just don't have the horses yet to get it done. Not so sure anymore that this staff has the vision OR the skills to get 'em in to start with, then coach 'em up once they do--if they really CAN do EITHER.
Far as I'm concerned, they get back on track pronto, then bring in a MAJOR recruiting class and start to show REAL and comsistent results over the course pf this and into NEXT season, or we HAVE to wipe the slate and start AGAIN:
This was THAT BAD a warning as to the true heart of this team, or rather lack thereof. And "NO HEART" is unaccepable, the worst "sign" of all.
All in all, this is the worst I've felt about the FUTURE of Gator football since the week of the '09 SEC Championship game, culminating in THAT 2nd half beat down.
I am not interested in analysis or recriminations from Coach Mac or any of the TV talking heads now. We have a long way to go, a WHOLE lotta work to do--and we just don't have the horses yet to get it done. Not so sure anymore that this staff has the vision OR the skills to get 'em in to start with, then coach 'em up once they do--if they really CAN do EITHER.
Far as I'm concerned, they get back on track pronto, then bring in a MAJOR recruiting class and start to show REAL and comsistent results over the course pf this and into NEXT season, or we HAVE to wipe the slate and start AGAIN:
This was THAT BAD a warning as to the true heart of this team, or rather lack thereof. And "NO HEART" is unaccepable, the worst "sign" of all.
Exactly, on both counts. It was practically UNBELIEVABLE. I really thought there was no danger of this Coach and staff doing things that way. Not just Mac let us (and himself) down, but that was the opposite of everything Nussmeyer preaches, too.
(See my last post, just above here: I know it sounds like a "fair-weather-fan-freakout", but I really feel that way--utterly disappointed, a numb feeling of betrayed trust. Turns out this team is poorly lead, it seems. No excuse for it, least of all from the Head Coach. I don't especially like Saban--but that just doesn't happen on his Tide teams: Everyone, top to bottom, is responsible--or ELSE!
Again: I totally agree--we woulda made em pay with a coupla more sustained drives in the first half, put up a coupla more scores that might have tilted things KUST enough to take em outta any real CHANCE at that kind of come back--but we showed big gaps all over the field, both sides of the ball, in the 2nd half, and our D, properly rested instead of being run ragged practically the whole 3rd quarter, has enough talent to have kept all that from getting out of hand.
But lets face it: More than anything else, it was poor coaching at the most basic level, planning and leadership, that let us down--FAILED MISERABLY, let their young men on this TEAM down.
I couldn't listen to Mac after the game (may do so later on, havta see bout that, how I feel)--but if someone did, DID HE AT LEAST TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY? It was the only thing he COULD do with any class, I figure, at this point...
awebbf5
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Yeah someone needs to post a link of mcelwain post game comments
awebbf5
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I'm still pissed. This loss is hard to take
One more thing: This is one of those times I am glad for whomever DOES still peek in here, the regs who laugh with us when its good--and even more at moments like these, when it hurts and hardly makes any sense. Thanks for hanging in anyway, guys.
Yep. Angry, disappointed, disillusioned--all to a point bordering on depression. Signs of the proverbial "bad loss".
But the worst of it is the underlying realization that (1) we aren't as good, or as far along towards BEING "good" as we thought, and (2) this Coach and staff may not have it in them to GET us there, after all.
And all I can say to THAT at the moment, is "Well, I didn't wanna FOOL myself in that regard in ANY event."
yeah. If no one else does it, I'll at least find somewhere that has em, put the link up here...prob won't be til sometime til Sunday earliest tho--I am Gator- AND footballed-OUT at this point, not just with the fact of the loss, but the HOW AND WHY, right?
(Been getting calls from friends etc here in Austin (mostly Longhorn fans doin' the "misery loves company" thing) and elsewhere all over the place...everyone knows MY "colors"--and a lot of them are fellow Gators long since scattered around the nation and planet, and now they are calling and/or emailing with belated "What HAPPENED??? Last I heard we had a big lead at the Half!" desperation...These last, while I do in fact sympathize, I just don't have the patience or perspective currently to help them much right now. I have composed the following to post and/or otherwise send back to them all:
"We blew it. We sucked. We have a long way to go. Consider yourselves fortunate if you DIDN'T watch it. Now PLEASE don't ask me anything further about ANY of it for at least 1 week."
(Oh yeah, and while I happen to be on the subject of "colors", maybe, just maybe we could stick to our all-blues from now on? Some of the most f'ed up, drag shit has happened in one of the OTHER color-schemed unis.)
