How the Coaches Voted

[O-town Gator]

FWIW, this is how they voted -

Florida received #1 votes from every SEC coach (naturally Urban voted for UF) except for Steve Spurrier - why such a party-pooper, Stevo?

The Zooker voted UF as #2, as did Charlie Weis and Booby Bowden.

None of the Big Ten coaches in the poll voted UF at #1, and with the exception of Mack Brown neither did any of the Big 12.

Bob Stoops didn't have a vote in this poll.

Here's how the rest of them voted: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/graphics/coaches_fb_poll_2008/flash.htm

 

[zoom there goes percy]

Good find, thanks for posting. There was a Big 10 coach who voted the Gators #1 and that would be Bill Lynch of Indiana. Good to see

 

[gatorsare#1]

I said it in another thread, and I'll say it again. Leach should have his vote disregarded and never get the chance to vote again. It's a joke that he ranked Texas Tech at #2 on his ballot.

Except for Leach and the coach of New Mexico State (he had Tech #3 for some reason), the highest any other coach had Texas Tech ranked was #6. Something is really wrong with that.

This is why I don't like the coaches poll. It's way too biased. The AP poll is fairer and more accurate. But unfortunately, the AP poll doesn't count.

 

[O-town Gator]

Here's a link to the other polls: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

 

[shandsgator8]

I said it in another thread, and I'll say it again. Leach should have his vote disregarded and never get the chance to vote again. It's a joke that he ranked Texas Tech at #2 on his ballot.

Except for Leach and the coach of New Mexico State (he had Tech #3 for some reason), the highest any other coach had Texas Tech ranked was #6. Something is really wrong with that.

This is why I don't like the coaches poll. It's way too biased. The AP poll is fairer and more accurate. But unfortunately, the AP poll doesn't count.

They only lost to 1 team this season, and that was OU, who many think is the #1 team in the country. I still don't understand why you think it's a "joke" that Leach thinks TT is #2 in the country. If you think TT shouldn't be #2 (and should be lower), you have to acknowledge that those who think UF should be #3, 4, or 5 could be correct about us as well. We haven't played PSU, UT, OU, TT, or USC. How can anyone say for sure, UF would beat 4 out of those 5?

 

[gatorsare#1]

They only lost to 1 team this season, and that was OU, who many think is the #1 team in the country. I still don't understand why you think it's a "joke" that Leach thinks TT is #2 in the country. If you think TT shouldn't be #2 (and should be lower), you have to acknowledge that those who think UF should be #3, 4, or 5 could be correct about us as well. We haven't played PSU, UT, OU, TT, or USC. How can anyone say for sure, UF would beat 4 out of those 5?

It's a joke, because it's so far removed from what the overwhelming majority thought. 59 of the 61 coaches thought that TT was #6 AT BEST. Not even the coaches FROM THE BIG 12 think that TT should be in the top 5, much less #2.

I don't see the UF argument you're trying to make. Nearly all of the coaches have us either #1,2, or 3. I don't know if any coaches have us lower than #3. And unlike the Big 12, SEC coaches thought nearly unanimously that we were #1.

 

[MahxFahn]

I am of the opinion that leach voted emotionally rather than honestly. He is bound to be a little miffed about the way things turned out. The vote that puzzles me is SOS's vote.

 

[O-town Gator]

I am of the opinion that leach voted emotionally rather than honestly. He is bound to be a little miffed about the way things turned out. The vote that puzzles me is SOS's vote.

Me too - what's Spurrier's problem? Is he a little jealous of Urban Meyer?

 

[shandsgator8]

Me too - what's Spurrier's problem? Is he a little jealous of Urban Meyer?

He likes Bob Stoops. I read in an article he referred to Bob as "Stoopsie."

 

[shandsgator8]

It's a joke, because it's so far removed from what the overwhelming majority thought. 59 of the 61 coaches thought that TT was #6 AT BEST. Not even the coaches FROM THE BIG 12 think that TT should be in the top 5, much less #2.

I don't see the UF argument you're trying to make. Nearly all of the coaches have us either #1,2, or 3. I don't know if any coaches have us lower than #3. And unlike the Big 12, SEC coaches thought nearly unanimously that we were #1.

I don't think a teams rank can only be decided by how coaches vote. I see your point as using a coach consensus to decide what a "joke" is, but I don't think one can be so sure that TT is in no way the # 2 team in the country.

 

[Escambia94]

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I don't see the UF argument you're trying to make. Nearly all of the coaches have us either #1,2, or 3. I don't know if any coaches have us lower than #3. And unlike the Big 12, SEC coaches thought nearly unanimously that we were #1.

I think his point is that TT lost to what is now the #3 team, Texas. Florida lost to what is now the #25 team, Ole Miss. Using that line of logic, no matter how much you personally disagree with that logic, it does illustrate why some others would not rank us as high and why it's not too crazy. Using that line of logic, Texas should be #2 and not Florida. Many fans outside of the SEC are making the same argument.

Me too - what's Spurrier's problem? Is he a little jealous of Urban Meyer?

I think there is a bit of jealousy there. He does favor Stoops. There was a quote some time ago that he had would not have minded if Stoops replaced him at Florida.

I don't think a teams rank can only be decided by how coaches vote. I see your point as using a coach consensus to decide what a "joke" is, but I don't think one can be so sure that TT is in no way the # 2 team in the country.

I don't agree with the coach's poll, but I would be more willing to trust the BCS poll if it were more straightforward. There is a formula explaining the BCS ranking, but it seems much too cumbersome and convoluted.

I am in favor of using a ranking system and then making the top 16 play head-to-head, sort of like March Madness in NCAA basketball. We could shorten the season to a mandatory 10 games, set the top 16, and have two sets of bowl games based on ranking--a championship bowl series for the top 16, and an invitational bowl system based on invitation (like the NIT) so that schools that did not make the top 16 could get a share of the bowl money, albeit lesser bowl money. For those not in the top 16, they could play a rivalry game with relatively short notice and an invitational bowl game for a total of 12 games. If a low-ranked team did not get an invitational bowl, then they would only have 11 games to play. Teams that lose in round 1 of championship bowl play would also only have 11 games that year, but a piece of the pie from bowl play as compensation. Teams that lose round 2 of championship bowl play would have a total of 12 games, plus a share of a slightly larger bowl game. Losers of round 3 would have a total of 13 games, and the final 1 vs 2 would have 14 total games.

As long as you are in the top 16, you get the benefit of head to head play to resolve the king of the mountain argument. The weakness in that ploy shows up around teams ranked near 16, but one can argue that the only real loser there is #17--so close, yet so far away.

 

[gatorsare#1]

I just don't like either of the human polls that are used now. The Coaches poll has the appearance of bias, and the coaches don't even see a lot of the teams play. The Harris poll is just a bunch of famous people. The AP Poll is by far the most objective and the most accurate poll out there. I wish the AP would let the BCS use its poll.


No other team has a good argument other than Texas. And even that isn't that strong, because it's not UF's fault that the Big 12 has a terrible tiebreaker system.

For Texas Tech, they lost by 40+ points. It's very hard for a team to reach a national championship game with that big of a loss.

As far as USC and Penn State, why should they be complaining? After all, THEIR conferences are the ones that want to live in the 1920s, and not move into the 21st century. They want to maintain the sanctity of the Rose Bowl and they have. The Rose Bowl will once again be Big 10 champ vs. Pac 10 champ. That's what those conferences wanted. It's not UF's problem that the Pac 10 and Big 10 won't add a conference championship game or drop their objections to a playoff. USC and Penn State HAVE NO ARGUMENT and have no right to complain when THEY are the reason we still have no playoff system. I feel little sympathy if any Big 10 or Pac 10 team gets left out of the title game, because of their feelings about the Rose Bowl. They made their bed and now they have to lie in it.

None of the other teams has a better argument than UF.