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Meyer leaves as a champ
- Thread starter Leakfan12
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Uh, yeah--"Champ" of the "Outback Bowl". Not exactly in the same discussion as "National Champion", the standard HE set and the one his "Plan To Win" says you always compare yourself to, try to better every time out.
By his own set of standards for himself and his teams, he should have stuck to his original instincts and left after last season...and yes, we're ALL complicit in that mistake: we BEGGED him to stay, panicked when he quit, told ourselves (and anyone who'd listen) that "everything's fine" when he flip/flopped, swept it all under the "prescription turf", so to speak. That "one bad loss" you spoke of was a doozy--and a warning, one we ignored right along with the resignation-drama once it was apparently past and we seemed to bounce back with "everything intact" in the subsequent Sugar Bowl rout...we paid for THAT mistake with almost a whole YEAR of disappointment, anger and frustration.
It looks like we're in the process of "landing on our feet", with a great future beginning to emerge from the darkness, so it IS time to thank Urban Meyer (AND his staff--even Addazio, as a recruiter and back when he coached the O-line well), for the National Championships, yes, but even more for making sure the world KNEW we'd be in the discussion going into every season from now on.
THANKS, COACH. I'm cool with you ALWAYS being a Gator, office in the Athletic Complex, the whole deal, if you want it. I sure as hell dread the idea of FACING you leading some OTHER team against us some day...
By his own set of standards for himself and his teams, he should have stuck to his original instincts and left after last season...and yes, we're ALL complicit in that mistake: we BEGGED him to stay, panicked when he quit, told ourselves (and anyone who'd listen) that "everything's fine" when he flip/flopped, swept it all under the "prescription turf", so to speak. That "one bad loss" you spoke of was a doozy--and a warning, one we ignored right along with the resignation-drama once it was apparently past and we seemed to bounce back with "everything intact" in the subsequent Sugar Bowl rout...we paid for THAT mistake with almost a whole YEAR of disappointment, anger and frustration.
It looks like we're in the process of "landing on our feet", with a great future beginning to emerge from the darkness, so it IS time to thank Urban Meyer (AND his staff--even Addazio, as a recruiter and back when he coached the O-line well), for the National Championships, yes, but even more for making sure the world KNEW we'd be in the discussion going into every season from now on.
THANKS, COACH. I'm cool with you ALWAYS being a Gator, office in the Athletic Complex, the whole deal, if you want it. I sure as hell dread the idea of FACING you leading some OTHER team against us some day...
We all know what we would call Urban Meyer if he were head coach of another team, right? Gator bait! I will always respect him for what he did for us, and he will always be a Gator, but once he dons another team's colors he is Gator bait. The same was true with Steve Spurrier. Same with Galen Hall. (Notice how I skipped right over Ron Zook?)
I do not dread the idea of facing Meyer in the future, as long as Florida has done its due diligence to hire the best and brightest in G'ville.
I do not dread the idea of facing Meyer in the future, as long as Florida has done its due diligence to hire the best and brightest in G'ville.
(Yeah, me too...this is me TRYING to be nice, "positive and supportive" and all that, OK? I was MORE bugged at SS when HE left--and as far as I was concerned he was TOTAL "Gator Bait" when he came back to the SEC just a few seasons later! Frankly, I think Meyer may have lost a major portion of his edge for GOOD--so much of that is a combination of what goes on inside both the COACH'S head AND everyone else's, fans and adversaries alike. Clearly THAT has been tainted, lost, at least for now, and I'm not so sure it comes back...certainly not without a whole lot more work than it took the first time, and never quite the same or as strong somehow. So yes, I'm trying to be a "good sport", gracious in the parting--but I'm not really afraid of what he might do TO us in the future with another team. However, I AM sincere when I say that it saddens me some to anticipate rooting against him if/when that day comes, perhaps inevitably so--then I'll happily RIP him AND his team in the event...)
Urban Meyer will not be able to duplicate his Florida success without sitting back for 2-4 years and building up a staff in the background. Most of his trustworthy assistants have moved on. Dan Mullen is building a new spread-option empire, so who would OC a renewed Meyer offense at, say, Ohio State? Zach Azzani? Scot Loeffler? Billy Gonzales? Doubt it. Maybe Steve Addazio if he falters at Temple around the same time Urban resurfaces. He could also encounter "the next Urban Meyer" while taking his sabbatical.
Let's talk defense. Charlie Strong? Nope. Louisville is on the rise and may be somebody in a couple years when Urban mounts a comeback. Teryl Austin? Maybe. Chuck Heater? Most likely.
If Urban is serious about a comeback, he is going to have to risk some free time in the next few years and build a staff while still laying low. Unless he goes to Ohio State or Notre Dame he will not be able to pluck a dream staff overnight without incurring a lot of frequent flier miles and a lot of fights with the wife over bringing work home during retirement.
I wish him well, but I doubt he returns to build another dynasty, and it had better not be in the SEC or in the southeast. Stay retired or become Gator bait.
Let's talk defense. Charlie Strong? Nope. Louisville is on the rise and may be somebody in a couple years when Urban mounts a comeback. Teryl Austin? Maybe. Chuck Heater? Most likely.
If Urban is serious about a comeback, he is going to have to risk some free time in the next few years and build a staff while still laying low. Unless he goes to Ohio State or Notre Dame he will not be able to pluck a dream staff overnight without incurring a lot of frequent flier miles and a lot of fights with the wife over bringing work home during retirement.
I wish him well, but I doubt he returns to build another dynasty, and it had better not be in the SEC or in the southeast. Stay retired or become Gator bait.
Check out how SOS built his coaching staff. His son is WR coach. A former Gator QB from the 90s is his QB coach. Much of his defense he happened to run across as old guys who want to coach close to their hometowns in Columbia, Spartanburg, and cities near USCe.
Meyer is too young to bring a protege like Alex Smith or Tim Tebow as coach. He could encounter an experienced coach or two that would join him in Columbus OH to be around family (if OSU).
Gatorfan24
Gator Fan
I'm glad he is leaving a champ. He has given a lot to Gator Nation.
