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Leakfan12

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Don't know if this smart of me suggesting this but I going with it anyway. Lane Kiffin as OC of the Gators? At least if he gets out of hand Coach Muschomp would punch him (OK one could hope). Hey not many people especially on this board has much faith in OC Pease.
 

mjfan23

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Im sure Lane will get a job that he is completely under qualified for... I dont think I would want him hear anyway.
 

Ga8or22

Eventis sultorum magister.
HOLY SH*t are you crazy - kiss my a** that sleazy person is the last person I want to see in hog town.
 

Ga8or22

Eventis sultorum magister.
Why not? Lane Kiffin's wife is the daughter of Gator Great John Reaves, so there is a connection.
That is no recommendation - John, as much as I liked him as a player, has an acknowledged drinking problem that cost him his job once and a different school gave him another chance. He may have straightened up BUT that concern is always there. Like George O'Leary has never escaped lying on his resume with Notre Dame. UCF gave him a second chance and he has done well.
 

Escambia94

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That is no recommendation - John, as much as I liked him as a player, has an acknowledged drinking problem that cost him his job once and a different school gave him another chance. He may have straightened up BUT that concern is always there. Like George O'Leary has never escaped lying on his resume with Notre Dame. UCF gave him a second chance and he has done well.
You have a valid point. I stop paying attention to college players once they leave school, so I ignore the alcoholism, drug abuse, failed pro careers, etc. Either way, my point is that Lane Kiffin coaching at Florida is not too foreign of an idea.
 

Leakfan12

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Anybody still have faith in Pease? Isn't drug and alcohol the reason why Reaves was a bust in the NFL (though had success in the USFL)?
 

Ga8or22

Eventis sultorum magister.
Anybody still have faith in Pease? Isn't drug and alcohol the reason why Reaves was a bust in the NFL (though had success in the USFL)?
YES,Champ is great for defense, but he doesn't know his a** from a hole in the ground as far as offense is concerned
 

Escambia94

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I have guarded optimism regarding Pease. Muschamp may very well be limiting Pease's creativity since he is a conservative, defensive, statistics guy. I will see what LSU and UGA do to the Muschamp-Pease dynamic before I call for Kiffin or anybody else to replace Pease.
 

DRU2012

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OMG--NOT Kiffy!!! THAT isn't any "upgrade"--it's a bullet-to-the-BRAIN, self-inflicted! No, no, no: My concerns with Pease are for the apparent lack of game plans and/or IN-game flexibility--and we just don't KNOW to what degreee he is operating within Muschamp-imposed strictures (but if that IS the explanation, then Chomp needs to get his head out of his @$$ and turn his OC loose, once and for all)...I just tend to think that while there is a certain tendency on our Head Coach's part to approve that sort of approach, Pease has been a little too willing to agree/give in/hide-behind such a philosophy--maybe he just doesn't HAVE much else to offer? That's my fear.
(The point here is that Muschamp essentially came in here from the start looking for/hoping for/expecting a knowledgeable, talented and imaginative OC to run his offense in a manner that successfully complemented his defensive plans--and so far, that hasn't materialized.)
 

Escambia94

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The head coach is the boss. If he wants the OC to chew up 35+ minutes of clock, then the OC focuses on running and using the entire play clock. Someone more established and just as bull headed as OC would give us fans the exciting offense we demand, but at what cost to team/coach chemistry and time of possession? At this time, as frustrating as it is for offense-craving fans, Pease and this boring offense are the best mix for a defense-and-TOP-minded coach.
 

DRU2012

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The head coach is the boss. If he wants the OC to chew up 35+ minutes of clock, then the OC focuses on running and using the entire play clock. Someone more established and just as bull headed as OC would give us fans the exciting offense we demand, but at what cost to team/coach chemistry and time of possession? At this time, as frustrating as it is for offense-craving fans, Pease and this boring offense are the best mix for a defense-and-TOP-minded coach.
OK--but then THAT'S a "problem" right there, see what I'm saying? HAS to be a better "meeting of minds" and recognition of what it'll take to win BIG in the SEC, and nationally, than the kind of stubborn "My way or the highway" oversight that is implied here...I just didn't, and (perhaps self-delusionally) still DON'T get the impression that was Chomp's intent coming in--neither in the choice(s) he made at OC or in what he has said about this "pro-style, ball-control offense" he has been a proponent of all along--Yeah, he wanted (and is getting) a strong running game on a physical team going BOTH ways, but I'm NOT convinced the problems we've had (and continue to have) with the passing game was or IS "planned". Question is, how much is circumstance, bad luck etc., and how much is a result of the decisions being made by the OC?
 

DRU2012

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It is not a "problem" to Jeremy Foley until the Gators lose 4-5 games.
I know--and agree, BIG picture...but we're here on GE, doin' our thing 'tween games as the season develops--and TRYIN' to anticipate and get ahead of the problems we each see in our squad and program. This stuff isn't so much a "final indictment", or even "early warning", but each of us sounding off about evident flaws, where we're headed and how to maximize what we may (or may not) have--while there's still time, flexibility and room-to-maneuver and improve in the season ahead (and/or begin positioning ourselves for NEXT season, should it come to that).
 

Escambia94

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It will be interesting to see where the offense goes next year when Murphy has graduated, Driskel returns, Grier arrives, and the current underclass receivers and backs are a year older.
 

DRU2012

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It will be interesting to see where the offense goes next year when Murphy has graduated, Driskel returns, Grier arrives, and the current underclass receivers and backs are a year older.
Personally, I don't see Driskel as anymore than a "stopgap/backup (albeit a "seasoned" one) once Grier is available--but I'm afraid that in this Muschamp/Pease-envisioned conservative, so-called "pro-style" offense (especially in Pease's case, where I think Driskel had become his "on-field alter-ego"), there'll be a tunnel-visioned assumption from the START that "Driskel is The Man"...and if things head south for Jeff in the way they'd started THIS season, it may not just be PEASE whose job is ultimately forfeit as things come apart.
Planned and played properly (and maybe without the terrible luck we've had these last couple of years on the injury front), Gator Nation will have every right to be looking for a big year in 2014, one where our growing talent, depth and experience up and down the line-up, on both sides of the ball, SHOULD have us at least contending for an SEC Championship, and more. I believe the key will be what happens at QB, who is installed and brought along there.
 

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