The Zooker
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The M-theory supports my approach.
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Auburn's Newton reportedly cheated at FL
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"Membrane"-theory! ...a variation of String Theory where the idea is that we inhabit just one slice of reality among an infinity of them located adjacent to one another in a "multiverse", all on the surface of "the quantum foam", I believe. Am I on the right track here, Escambria94?
Anyway, Zooker, welcome to the "Put-the-rest-of-Gator-Nation-to-sleep"-Club. Meetings are here at Gator Envy, whenever the urge strikes us, depending upon obscure choices long since forgotten blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Anyway, Zooker, welcome to the "Put-the-rest-of-Gator-Nation-to-sleep"-Club. Meetings are here at Gator Envy, whenever the urge strikes us, depending upon obscure choices long since forgotten blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Yep. That is a good way to summarize the M-theory. The beauty of all these theories is that the amount of energy it takes to definitely prove them right or wrong approaches the energy used in the Big Bang. All of these theories tend to hold up well mathematically, or for every researcher X that disproves theory y, researcher Y disproves theory X in kind so they are at a mathematical stalemate. Stephen Hawkings has the best explanation for all of it--no matter who is right, the evidence gets destroyed in the measurement and there is no proof that the theory was correct.
If only it were as simple as "Quantum Leap", where we could jump through our own lifetime and fix the offense or "Voyagers" where we could just dial our SEC Championship destination into the Omni and just go there. With the Gators. Beating the Tigers.
If only it were as simple as "Quantum Leap", where we could jump through our own lifetime and fix the offense or "Voyagers" where we could just dial our SEC Championship destination into the Omni and just go there. With the Gators. Beating the Tigers.
Start down THAT road and it never ends. (Like, all those "slices" where where we WON the SEC Championship game last year, result of any NUMBER of different prior choices, OR similarly, maybe Tebow goes to the NFL after his Jr. year and Cam stays, and--oh never mind! You get the idea.)
MahxFahn
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Was reading a couple of posts and I had to check to make sure I wasn't on tribe.net in a discussion on Schrodenger's Cat.
On another note. The bottom trailer during the game on ESPN is continually showing the corroboration by an ex miss-state player Rogers that the newtons wanted 180k to play.
On another note. The bottom trailer during the game on ESPN is continually showing the corroboration by an ex miss-state player Rogers that the newtons wanted 180k to play.
The Zooker
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The Zooker
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I think ESPN may have gone a little too far with their latest NCAAF front page.
It's pretty sad when ESPN, TMZ, and Al Jazeera are all smearing your name without so much as a court trial to determine innocence or guilt. Then again, if this is all true, then Cam Newton will be a great NFL star.
What's the surprise? It's "NEWS".
Actually, in this context (ie. of wallowing in phoniness and sleaze), I just can't work up much sympathy for Cam OR his dad. They entered this "playing field", the "PR Arena", you might call it, with their eyes open, and played the game for all it was worth. That to them this apparently (and it's in that "apparently"-part that your problem lies, I know) included certain "benefits" along the way is THEIR problem (literally), and a stupid, short-sited one at that, fueled entirely by arrogance and greed.
How can ANYONE miss the nature of this celebrity-obsessed media culture we live in now? Wallow in it at your peril: they ALWAYS "build ya up to tear ya down", and fat, juicy stories like this are the main event, what those same people who fawn over you are REALLY looking for, once you're "big news"--thanks to that "silent deal" you made with them in the first place.
As for the "court of law" idea--HA! This is "the court of public opinion", MUCH more real and important to these folks. But generally they don't HAVE to make this kind of tale u. Sadly, there are an endless parade of human-frailties on display out there; you only have to dig and scratch...but it's "better" when everyone knows who they are first.
Actually, in this context (ie. of wallowing in phoniness and sleaze), I just can't work up much sympathy for Cam OR his dad. They entered this "playing field", the "PR Arena", you might call it, with their eyes open, and played the game for all it was worth. That to them this apparently (and it's in that "apparently"-part that your problem lies, I know) included certain "benefits" along the way is THEIR problem (literally), and a stupid, short-sited one at that, fueled entirely by arrogance and greed.
How can ANYONE miss the nature of this celebrity-obsessed media culture we live in now? Wallow in it at your peril: they ALWAYS "build ya up to tear ya down", and fat, juicy stories like this are the main event, what those same people who fawn over you are REALLY looking for, once you're "big news"--thanks to that "silent deal" you made with them in the first place.
As for the "court of law" idea--HA! This is "the court of public opinion", MUCH more real and important to these folks. But generally they don't HAVE to make this kind of tale u. Sadly, there are an endless parade of human-frailties on display out there; you only have to dig and scratch...but it's "better" when everyone knows who they are first.
The Zooker
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Word on the street is that Auburn is calling a special press conference today to make an important announcement. Uh-ohhhhh.
GainesvillianReptillian
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Looks like the FBI is getting involved now!
The Zooker
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Yup. Initially it was reported that they were going to speak to Bond and Rogers. But I just saw that the FBI is speaking to Cam on Tuesday. Looks like we won't have to wait for the five year investigation by the NCAA. There's no way Cam is dumb enough to lie to the FBI. Well, wait, he is. Never mind.
The Zooker
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The word about a press conference today may or may not be legit. Some radio programs are reporting that it is going to happen and some are even reporting that it is to announce that Cam is sitting out the rest of the season. But we all know how a rumor can get blown into fact across the media these days. I hope this one turns out to be true though.
The Zooker
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Again, I have to say how thrilled I am that this is happening. I absolutely love these stories. Being the SEC, each school's fan base is playing their cards differently in the saga. Wild rumors get passed down the line and end up being reported as fact. Rampant speculation is running wild. It's very entertaining. The latest one I've heard is that the NCAA is advising Auburn to sit Cam.
The Zooker
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As of right now, the official response from Auburn on requests about Cam's eligibility is "no comment." Uh-Oh. The official response up until now has been "Cam is eligible to play." Now they are telling the press "no comment." Uh-Ohhhhh.
I'm getting confused about who says they said what to whom--and it's EARLY in this whole tangled and tortured tale. Of course, to at least SOME of the "people involved", that is exactly what they are (and always have been) counting on--ie. a cloud of foggy contradictions and weakly supported hearsay.
With the NCAA, even the uncovering of a true evidence-trail was always likely to take so long that everyone materially involved could long since get what each wanted out of the whole sordid affair by the time any consequences were meted out and penalties handed down. Will the involvement of the FBI short-circuit this assumption? It should at least hasten the process.
With the NCAA, even the uncovering of a true evidence-trail was always likely to take so long that everyone materially involved could long since get what each wanted out of the whole sordid affair by the time any consequences were meted out and penalties handed down. Will the involvement of the FBI short-circuit this assumption? It should at least hasten the process.
The Zooker
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The strangest part of this whole saga is that there is an ex-TCU player who is posting every new bit of information on a TCU board before it hits the media. Literally everything that ESPN has reported to date, he posted it prior to it getting out. It's odd. He has some kind of connection to the MSU booster that was approached for money.
Is it time to raise the larger-context question once again, the "MAJOR CONUNDRUM of Big-Time College Football"? To wit:
"Should these young men be PAID, out front, in some fashion for what they do for the bottom line at their respective institutions (over and above their tuition, of course)?"
Huge sums that go not just to the football program, not even just to all the other athletic programs, but to virtually every aspect of some schools' whole budget, and beyond, rest on their shoulders. In the case of the biggest stars, it even moves large numbers of paraphernalia (eg. game shirts) with their names and numbers on them. None of these kids see a dime of any of it.
I'm just recapping a few of the more obvious points here; it goes much further and deeper, as we all know. Talk about "a can of worms". Nowhere else in our supposedly "free market"-culture would virtual indentured servitude be tolerated in this fashion--except college sports and the whole "amateur vs. professional" debate, long-discredited and abandoned elsewhere, even in Olympic circles.
I'm tempted to give this topic a thread of its own, but think I'll wait, at least 'til this particular "epic" plays itself out. Meanwhile, all we can do is sit back, monitor the idiocy and wait for the next (inevitable) "shocking revelation". These TV Talking Heads keep reminding me of Capt. Renneau in "Casablanca" when Major Strasse orders him to close "Rick's": "I'm shocked, simply shocked to find there's GAMBLING going on at this establishment!", as the cruppier quietly sidles up to him and says, "Your winnings, sir..."
"Should these young men be PAID, out front, in some fashion for what they do for the bottom line at their respective institutions (over and above their tuition, of course)?"
Huge sums that go not just to the football program, not even just to all the other athletic programs, but to virtually every aspect of some schools' whole budget, and beyond, rest on their shoulders. In the case of the biggest stars, it even moves large numbers of paraphernalia (eg. game shirts) with their names and numbers on them. None of these kids see a dime of any of it.
I'm just recapping a few of the more obvious points here; it goes much further and deeper, as we all know. Talk about "a can of worms". Nowhere else in our supposedly "free market"-culture would virtual indentured servitude be tolerated in this fashion--except college sports and the whole "amateur vs. professional" debate, long-discredited and abandoned elsewhere, even in Olympic circles.
I'm tempted to give this topic a thread of its own, but think I'll wait, at least 'til this particular "epic" plays itself out. Meanwhile, all we can do is sit back, monitor the idiocy and wait for the next (inevitable) "shocking revelation". These TV Talking Heads keep reminding me of Capt. Renneau in "Casablanca" when Major Strasse orders him to close "Rick's": "I'm shocked, simply shocked to find there's GAMBLING going on at this establishment!", as the cruppier quietly sidles up to him and says, "Your winnings, sir..."
The Zooker
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They are being paid. Just not in cash. Guaranteeing the cost of tuition, housing, food, medical care, clothing, school supplies, books, travel, marketing, and coaching to some kid just coming out of high school is a pretty big risk that practically no employer out there would take. It's also your best hope of getting into the NFL. So the benefits for a young high school athlete are already through the roof. Let's also not forget that not all football programs out there are profitable. The only schools that could afford this would be big time programs. Those programs already have a big edge against the smaller guys. No use beating them down even further.
