If Auburn beats UGA and the Gators beat Spurrier's boys and if Mizzou loses two out of three games, the Gators will win the SEC East. It could happen Auburn could play angry against UGA. Mizzou might be hard with UT and Arkansas as their last two games (also hope A&M brings there defense) but UT is at home.
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I cheering for Auburn and Texas A&M next week, are you?
- Thread starter Leakfan12
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This is a tough one. Yes, I want the Gators to win the East, but no, I do not think Muschamp is going to put the Gators in position to win the SEC or the East next year. I am willing to accept that maybe, maybe, maybe Muschamp has turned a corner. The proof will be in the pudding. Spurrier needs to beat his buddy Muschamp in order to get to 0.500. Spurrier will likely go 0.500 in his last two games, so a loss to Florida pretty much guarantees a sub-0.500 season for the Cocks.
Lucky for Florida, the Cocks are soft this year. As long as we hide all the Viagra in Gainesville, the Cocks will remain soft.
Dale J. Rodriguez
Gator Fan
LOL at Escambia. I am rooting for Auburn and Texas A&M, I think they both get W's this Saturday.
I agree. If Muschamp can be the role of spoiler this year, I will take it:
Win out and go to the SEC Championship.
Beat Alabama or Miss State in the SEC Championship.
Win the Bowl Game.
This is the only way I will believe he has turned a corner.
I agree. If Muschamp can be the role of spoiler this year, I will take it:
Win out and go to the SEC Championship.
Beat Alabama or Miss State in the SEC Championship.
Win the Bowl Game.
This is the only way I will believe he has turned a corner.
If Muschamp can stop being Muschamp, then the Gators have a chance. I want to believe that this guy woke up one morning, slipped on a banana peel, hit his head, and forgot how to be a bumbling ****ing idiot. Just give it time. If the offense does not do its job of screwing up, then the special teams will find a way. It's the Muschamp Way!
@Leakfan12, @Escambia94, @Dale J. Rodriguez,
Naturally I have strong reactions to ALL of the above. I was about to reply to the first, then read on and one-by-one, realized I was ready to answer each one here in turn--so instead I'll just say this regarding the sudden upsurge of "maybe if THIS were to happen":
"NUTS to all that!" Not gonna happen (with the possible, sad-but-for-me-at-least-hopeful exception of E-'s prediction here)--and though a part of me is following ALL of it myself in some "mental program" running in the back of my mind (like all of you, all Gator fans, I can't help it I guess), it is time we just face things as they are with strength, resignation and determination: As I put it elsewhere, time we "cut to the heart" of all this and face the truth--that we've seen his best, and Will Muschamp isn't gonna build a true winner here. Time to get moving on a future where that seems realistically doable. It's called "hope", and it is time we stopped being its victim (that's called "false hope") and be able to invest it in our team and its leader once more--and at least FEEL like it is well-founded.
Naturally I have strong reactions to ALL of the above. I was about to reply to the first, then read on and one-by-one, realized I was ready to answer each one here in turn--so instead I'll just say this regarding the sudden upsurge of "maybe if THIS were to happen":
"NUTS to all that!" Not gonna happen (with the possible, sad-but-for-me-at-least-hopeful exception of E-'s prediction here)--and though a part of me is following ALL of it myself in some "mental program" running in the back of my mind (like all of you, all Gator fans, I can't help it I guess), it is time we just face things as they are with strength, resignation and determination: As I put it elsewhere, time we "cut to the heart" of all this and face the truth--that we've seen his best, and Will Muschamp isn't gonna build a true winner here. Time to get moving on a future where that seems realistically doable. It's called "hope", and it is time we stopped being its victim (that's called "false hope") and be able to invest it in our team and its leader once more--and at least FEEL like it is well-founded.
(PS Even if it WERE to come to pass, would it change anything inherently true about this team, its health and/or long term prospects? Strikes me as a scenario that mostly just ratifies the view that this is a TRULY "down year for the SEC"--don't know how jazzed I'd be about being the "poster boys" for "The SEC's Fall From Grace". I can just see it--stumble into the East lead, get slaughtered by FSU, then do it again for all to see in Atlanta. Trust me, just another chance for pain and disappointment on a larger stage and scale. Oh, of COURSE I'd find myself rooting for it were the pieces to continue to fall into place--but there'd ALSO be a part of me that fears its consequence, that "Muschamp-reprieve" y'all speak of...That part will find secret satisfaction when the pattern is broken, even an embarrassing Gator-thud or two--and I absolutely hate that, greatly resent finding myself having any such conflict within me when it comes to the one thing sacrosanct: Being a loyal, unequivocal Gator fan has been and is the one constant in my life.)
Well. Muschamp's recent "successes" have won over the media: http://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/pds-postulations-thoughts-vanderbilt-game-2/. Reading this surprises me. As an analytical guy, I can see the point these guys are making on behalf of keeping Muschamp. It is a good thing I do not get a vote on Muschamp's career, because I went through hell defending the guy...and then the jerk goes and loses to Missouri on homecoming. I am done defending the guy, but I will accept whatever crap decision Jeremy Foley makes. He sure as heck will not be consulting with me, because I would have put that jerkwad on a bus to Georgia after losing to Missouri. Georgia Southern was bad enough, but he had built in excuses. This year there are no damn excuses, and I cannot agree with the media that are defending the guy...at least not yet.
I hate it--but it doesn't surprise me.
Don't have the kind of energy left required to do much more than just hunker down, wait for the inevitable "Next Idiocy" he is pretty reliable for, and hope that when that comes it isn't NEXT season and we have to swim through another river-of-shit like the better part of this one. This is both why I am almost as sick of Foley as I am our Coach, AND why I am pretty well done for now with trying to make anyone else see it...You either agree or not, get it or don't--and presumably the rest will come around, as I did regarding Muschamp (as you did, E-)...REALLY hope we're not sitting here a year from now and you are by then where I am now regarding the AD AND HC; He (Foley) either gets it right next time--and getting rid of Muschamp now will turn out to be a key "first part" of that "next time", or else--in spite of himself, or I expect a LOT of Gators will be ready to tie 'em both to a rail and see 'em GONE.
If I had Foley's attention, as you wryly note none of us do, I guess I'd just return to that simple logic-equation I proposed some time back, and HAMMER on it:
"Muschamp is to Foley as Driskel is to Muschamp"
Beware the consequences, J. There's no way to replace him AND keep him here, ready to go back in--and there IS no "backup" at AD, reduced to waiting in the wings just in case. You're gonna have to make the hard decision, right out there in front of God and the world, and live with it. Or don't, and go down with him.
Trouble is, all of us will have to suffer through that WAY too-long process, if you choose the latter--and then live on with it when you're both gone.
jamestoney84
Gator Fan
Won't ever happen with Muschamp and his coaching staff at Florida
This shows you how thin the line of success is for Will Muschamp. Just before kickoff the media was saying that Florida could win the East and that Muschamp would be back next year. After the loss, the media are saying he is done at UF.
As usual, no matter WHAT y'all think, no matter what even I might THINK I think in our everyday bitch-fests, fact is I am as surprised and miserable as anyone at being THIS "right" about any of that not EVER actually coming to pass.
A part of me was always ready to cheer this team on, even if it meant Muschamp-retention--and NO part of me could foresee THIS level of complete and abysmal, floundering collapse at the end of a game we should have won easily but had already really NOT deserved to be in the position to win we WERE before our complete and thorough collapse.
Pretty convoluted, sure--but that's about how confused and tightly-knotted this team and everything about it is ANYWAY.
(Couldn't we even get the timing "right", do this at the end against FSU?)
A part of me was always ready to cheer this team on, even if it meant Muschamp-retention--and NO part of me could foresee THIS level of complete and abysmal, floundering collapse at the end of a game we should have won easily but had already really NOT deserved to be in the position to win we WERE before our complete and thorough collapse.
Pretty convoluted, sure--but that's about how confused and tightly-knotted this team and everything about it is ANYWAY.
(Couldn't we even get the timing "right", do this at the end against FSU?)
