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I doubt they will play in Atlanta
- Thread starter Leakfan12
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Yep. I take back my "revenge in Atlanta" comments. Not with this coaching arrangement. Not with this play calling. Not with Ol Ball Coach doing pretty well.
"...play in Atlanta"?!! Excuse me, folks, but have you been paying attention here these last few weeks???!!!
It's time to stop worrying about THIS year's record and become concerned about the future of our whole program! Urban appears disinterested and Foley may be inclined to retain Addazio if he steps aside--which I am afraid may be closer to actually occurring than I ever wanted to consider until lately, watching our Head Coach dazedly sleep-walking through ineptitude.
This is NOT the same Urban Meyer as the one who won two Nat'l Championships. If he can't find a way to "live longer and healthier" AND build championship-caliber teams, well, my guess is he'll just walk away--and sooner rather than later, once he realizes that is the case.
It's time to stop worrying about THIS year's record and become concerned about the future of our whole program! Urban appears disinterested and Foley may be inclined to retain Addazio if he steps aside--which I am afraid may be closer to actually occurring than I ever wanted to consider until lately, watching our Head Coach dazedly sleep-walking through ineptitude.
This is NOT the same Urban Meyer as the one who won two Nat'l Championships. If he can't find a way to "live longer and healthier" AND build championship-caliber teams, well, my guess is he'll just walk away--and sooner rather than later, once he realizes that is the case.
I figured it out. Bobby Bowden has kidnapped Urban Meyer and inserted a clone. We will see when the Gators play SOW. Bowden has been so pissed off at us beating his team that he orchestrated an elaborate scheme to make sure we don't win the SEC or a Natl Championship, and definitely not against SOW. Brilliant!
Relax. Take it one game at a time. We just played two of the best defenses in the country. We just need to get some confidence and get healthier. If we win out in SEC play we go to Atlanta and will face one of these four teams (ARK, AUB, BAMA, or LSU). The west is a monster this year. Let things play themselves out. While I don't exactly have faith that this coaching staff will get everything corrected, we still control our own destiny as far as the SEC East goes. And anything can hapen in ATL.
Your logic is sound and reasonable. I just wish someone on the Gator staff would say something like this to a) make *me* feel better and b) calm down the angry Gator Nation. Just look around at just about every Gator blog other than Pat Dooley and Buddy Martin--they are all calling for some kind of change. I understand the importance of the option in Urban Meyer's Plan to Win, but I am baffled that we did not learn from Chris Leak that the Plan to Win can include modifications to accommodate the skills of the QB under center. With Chris Leak, we threw out of the spread-option, and Leak was able to surprise the world with his running. We had a playbook that ran the gamut of UM's Plan to Win (PTW). Fast forward to 2010, and we are not doing that.
Urban Meyer stated after the Alabama loss, "if we do not follow the Plan to Win we will get our tails kicked in". Read the book where it says, "do not run a spread offense unless you have a runner that can throw". Bingo! How do we plan on going one game at a time, or even to Atlanta if we are not following our own rules? Using Urban Meyer's logic, we are going to get our tails kicked in the rest of the season. We are not following the original Plan to Win, the modified plan to win with a Chris Leak under center, nor are we maximizing the PTW for our main QB.
All I want for Christmas is for the Gators coaches to follow their own Plan to Win and stop doing whatever what I think Addazio is doing to the play calling. I assume it's his fault, but I could be wrong. Things may play out, but we cannot execute a playbook that apparently nobody on the team has seen, and we have no leaders stepping up consistently to lead us through the current game or to Atlanta. JB is getting there. Trey Burton is getting there. Debose is stepping up. We are at week 7. The rest of NCAA is not "getting there"--they are there and getting better. With the exception of one drive and a Debose return, we have not shown much recently to lead me to believe we are on a good trajectory to avoid being 9-3, possibly 9-4 with the Billy Bob Loser Bowl.
The Zooker
VIP Member
Luckily the Cocks break down in the second half of every season and somehow our players might be athletic enough to pull off a win despite their coaching.
Right now, I don't WANT to "feel better" about what amounts to bumbling mediocrity, the long, slow slide towards "remember when?"...Do you?
Look, I'd prefer the staff would be a bit more straight forward about everything, but that isn't what is bothering those of us who are accused of "over-reacting". Tell "the world" what you like, but we need to see some sign that
(1) You recognize that there are BIG PROBLEMS with this team--not just with the players, their injuries, mistakes and preparation, but with the COACHING, before and during the games, and
(2) You make dramatic changes that are clearly intended to address those problems.
More bland explanations, rationalizations and stone-walling while this regime plays for time, evidently hoping that a few more healthy bodies and a win against an over-matched patsy then a by-week will calm the ignorant rubes for a while longer can NOT be allowed to stand. I believe that it is only more desperate denial and blind self-delusion that has left this "Brain-LESS Trust" with little else.
Of course, at any time, "Old" Urban COULD "reappear" to kick this bunch (including his own currently pass-the-buck-to-Addazio alter-ego "New" Urban) in their collective rear ends and make wholesale changes that might revitalize the program. Assuming he still exists in there somewhere, THAT man is more than capable.
Accept the situation as it now stands, seize it as an OPPORTUNITY and change this team's whole approach and outlook. Concentrate on youth and chemistry and begin to build towards next year.
Look, I'd prefer the staff would be a bit more straight forward about everything, but that isn't what is bothering those of us who are accused of "over-reacting". Tell "the world" what you like, but we need to see some sign that
(1) You recognize that there are BIG PROBLEMS with this team--not just with the players, their injuries, mistakes and preparation, but with the COACHING, before and during the games, and
(2) You make dramatic changes that are clearly intended to address those problems.
More bland explanations, rationalizations and stone-walling while this regime plays for time, evidently hoping that a few more healthy bodies and a win against an over-matched patsy then a by-week will calm the ignorant rubes for a while longer can NOT be allowed to stand. I believe that it is only more desperate denial and blind self-delusion that has left this "Brain-LESS Trust" with little else.
Of course, at any time, "Old" Urban COULD "reappear" to kick this bunch (including his own currently pass-the-buck-to-Addazio alter-ego "New" Urban) in their collective rear ends and make wholesale changes that might revitalize the program. Assuming he still exists in there somewhere, THAT man is more than capable.
Accept the situation as it now stands, seize it as an OPPORTUNITY and change this team's whole approach and outlook. Concentrate on youth and chemistry and begin to build towards next year.
I admit to not reading the book but I was under the impression that The plan to win was mostly developed with a much different coaching staff in place and with much different talent. There has been a lot of turnover in the staff and on-field talent. You have a first-time coordinator in Austin, a GA as your LB coach and ST coordinator, and a new receivers coach. Maybe the plan hasn't quite clicked with this group of guys (players and coaches), yet.
This is the point in the season where we really find out what these men are made of. I expect these gators to fight and I expect this coaching staff to grow and learn to trust the talent that is there. Even with all the poor performances, most of our goals are still attainable (Sweep the main rivals [Tenn, UGA, and FSU], Win the east, and win the SEC championship game). I agree that the coaching staff should be directing this message to all of Gator Nation, players and fans. There is still a lot of football left to be played and plenty of room for improvement.
The one thing i hope this coaching staff does is get some youth involved in the games (Matt Elam, Powell, Floyd, Robert Clark, Debose, Mack (sp?) Brown, and whatever healthy young o-linemen) gotta get them ready for next year as there will be more turnover at key spots.
I think you're dreaming...I envy your optimism and staunch loyalty, it just seems misplaced here and now as far as I can see. In fact, most of your observations are at odds with that very optimism. "Most of our goals are still attainable"??? Which ones are you referring to?
No. We are not going to "win out" now. Like everyone else (including MOST IMPORTANTLY the coaching staff), you have had six games in which to view the on-field product and infer the behind-the-scenes confusion , denial and self-delusion that produced it. It doesn't take a seer or a crystal ball to tell ME that we will lose again this year, even WITH the kind of drastic changes I now believe are necessary. Either way, I'm more interested in seeing things fixed, our program headed back in the right direction and building towards dominance NEXT year than I am in whether or not we nip some other mediocre squad with a lucky break or simply one fewer bad mistakes at the end.
To a newer Gator fan, this may seem like nothing. Maybe the old guys are digging to deep into this. Maybe we are so afraid of the next Zook era that we are about a year or two too far ahead in panic mode. It's possible. Not that the Zook years were that bad when compared to USC's bazillion year ban on bowl games and infinitesimal scholarships, or Vanderbilt's paltry highlight reel. Then again, this is the University of Florida. We have a reputation to uphold here. We were mediocre for about 80 years of college football. I like it here on top, and goshdarnit, I have been somewhat spoiled since the 1980s and highly spoiled since the 1990s. So, I watched the 2010 Gators again on my TiVo and thought, "There is no effing way this team can put in a couple hours of practice and clean up that mess before Saturday". There are 200+ football teams in all of college football that can snap a ball better than us. Throw in a couple thousand high school teams, and a lot more Pop Warner teams. That's embarrassing. There are 90-ish teams better at offense in Division I. We have the best athletes in the galaxy, and the University of Lower Southside Podunk is more of an offensive juggernaut than the Mighty Gators? There are 40-ish teams that have better defenses than us, the fastest team in the Galaxy, the only team that can make the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs [Star Wars reference]. We aren't Les Miles. We cannot depend on luck to carry us through South Carolina and Florida State. Maybe not even Georgia, Appalachia State, and Vandy. Wanna wake up the team? Make a coaching change. Or set the locker room on fire.
Let's pretend we win out. How do we recruit new talent to the team? "Come to the University of Florida, where we only have three plays...all dives." That will boost your NFL stock. We will run out of 3-stars who overachieve and 5-stars who worship the Gators and come here no matter what, like Jeff Driskel.
Let's pretend we win out. How do we recruit new talent to the team? "Come to the University of Florida, where we only have three plays...all dives." That will boost your NFL stock. We will run out of 3-stars who overachieve and 5-stars who worship the Gators and come here no matter what, like Jeff Driskel.
YES! Well put. 'Bout sums up our angst.
The Zooker
VIP Member
lol @ Kessel Run
I think that it is possible to win out....if changes are made and someone starts leading this team. The talent is on this team, we do have great coach's, we just need a new plan.
Look at the difference with the last game last year....we just need this type of out of the box offense. There are about 15 possible playmakers on this team, we have to stop focusing on the "playmaker" of the day and utilize all the talent. Demps is not the answer, Burton is not the answer, Debose is not the answer, it requires ALL the playmakers to get this team moving.
I will be honest, I blamed Tebow for running the ball so much last year, I was obviously mistaken, it was the play calling. The offense picks out the playmaker of the day and uses this person like there is no-one else that can make plays.
This year is started out that it was going to be Rainey....that failed....then it became Demps as he had a good game.....run him till he gets hurt, then its Burton as he has a good game......now we try to get him the ball on 75% of the plays! It is just foolish.
Why not spread the plays to ALL of these guys during the course of the game? Why not get the recievers engaged on slants, reverses, and other running plays just to get them involved in the game.
Okay, done rambling....except this last point. No matter what, thow it 30-35 yards the down field at least 10 times a game!!!! I don't care if we thow a interception each time, at least it will pull some defenders away from the line of scrimmage!
Okay, I am done.
GO GATORS!!!
Look at the difference with the last game last year....we just need this type of out of the box offense. There are about 15 possible playmakers on this team, we have to stop focusing on the "playmaker" of the day and utilize all the talent. Demps is not the answer, Burton is not the answer, Debose is not the answer, it requires ALL the playmakers to get this team moving.
I will be honest, I blamed Tebow for running the ball so much last year, I was obviously mistaken, it was the play calling. The offense picks out the playmaker of the day and uses this person like there is no-one else that can make plays.
This year is started out that it was going to be Rainey....that failed....then it became Demps as he had a good game.....run him till he gets hurt, then its Burton as he has a good game......now we try to get him the ball on 75% of the plays! It is just foolish.
Why not spread the plays to ALL of these guys during the course of the game? Why not get the recievers engaged on slants, reverses, and other running plays just to get them involved in the game.
Okay, done rambling....except this last point. No matter what, thow it 30-35 yards the down field at least 10 times a game!!!! I don't care if we thow a interception each time, at least it will pull some defenders away from the line of scrimmage!
Okay, I am done.
GO GATORS!!!
GatorFanFromLA
Gator Fan
they should just names in a hat and which ever lucky person gets chosen, that'll be the go to guy:bananapowerslide:
shandsgator8
VIP Member
We probably won't play in Atlanta for the SEC title, but we still "control our own destiny."
I see at least one more loss this season, whether it's FSU, UGA, or USC, I don't know. I could easily be wrong, but I see flashes of success with our team. I really liked the play calling in the second half against LSU and am still curious as to why we wait until we're losing or late in the game before we call plays that remind me of Mullen.
But if we play the rest of the season like we've played so far, we have no chance to playing for the SEC title this season.
I see at least one more loss this season, whether it's FSU, UGA, or USC, I don't know. I could easily be wrong, but I see flashes of success with our team. I really liked the play calling in the second half against LSU and am still curious as to why we wait until we're losing or late in the game before we call plays that remind me of Mullen.
But if we play the rest of the season like we've played so far, we have no chance to playing for the SEC title this season.
Lifelong Gator
Gator Fan
I believe his #1 reciever was Hernandez
